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Old 03-30-2009 | 02:42 AM
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BUMP. This is a relic post but what ever happened to this comparo? Ive been looking through a fair few posts and i stil havent been able to find the pulleys go head to head for an informative review/comparison
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 07:06 AM
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We found the difference between the 181 and 185 on the quartermile to be about 1 and a half car lengths
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 08:21 AM
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We found the difference between the 181 and 185 on the quartermile to be about 1 and a half car lengths
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Old 03-30-2009 | 08:46 AM
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Here's the top three time slips from dragtimes.com, arranged by each pulley:

185mm pulleys:
None listed (that I know of)

181mm pulleys:
Jeff Croy - 10.907 @ 127.430 with a 1.688 60' and a 150 shot of nitrous
Jeff Croy - 11.865 @ 117.510 with a 1.715 60' (no nitrous)
Bryan Tracy - 12.240 @ 111.950 with a 1.800 60'
Mike Rydquist - 12.270 @ 111.490 with a 1.818 60'

178mm pulleys:
Cruzinquick - 11.890 @ 117.240 with a 1.807 60'
Rob @ NeedsWings - 11.930 @ 119.340 with a 1.738 60'
Chris Fareri - 11.979 @ 114.890 with a 1.740 60'

Code3 (original size)
Neal Mimikos - 12.175 @ 114.240 with a 1.783 60'
Scott McIntosh - 12.218 @ 112.900 with a 1.781 60'
Mike Kochman - 12.223 @ 113.430 with a 1.830 60'

Of course, this isn't an apples to apples comparison because these are all different cars on different days at different tracks. But it does seem to show that the power of the 181 and 185 pulleys have yet to be truly exploited. I imagine that this will all change this summer with the advent of better cooling mods. I think the larger pulleys will take the lead as long as they can keep cool.
 

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Old 03-30-2009 | 08:56 AM
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240M3SRT was running a 185 and his best time was a 12.10 at a 113 I think. 240, what was the mph?

He is not on Drag times, but SRT6Gang Member has the 181 and ran a 12.1 as well. I bet he will chime in here and verify his best time. He ran the 12.1 next to me when I ran the 12.218@112.90
 

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Old 03-30-2009 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tom2112
Here's the top three time slips from dragtimes.com, arranged by each pulley:

185mm pulleys:
None listed (that I know of)

181mm pulleys:
Jeff Croy - 10.907 @ 127.430 with a 1.688 60' and a 150 shot of nitrous
Jeff Croy - 11.865 @ 117.510 with a 1.715 60' (no nitrous)
Bryan Tracy - 12.240 @ 111.950 with a 1.800 60'
Mike Rydquist - 12.270 @ 111.490 with a 1.818 60'

178mm pulleys:
Cruzinquick - 11.890 @ 117.240 with a 1.807 60'
Rob @ NeedsWings - 11.930 @ 119.340 with a 1.738 60'
Chris Fareri - 11.979 @ 114.890 with a 1.740 60'

Code3 (original size)
Neal Mimikos - 12.175 @ 114.240 with a 1.783 60'
Scott McIntosh - 12.218 @ 112.900 with a 1.781 60'
Mike Kochman - 12.223 @ 113.430 with a 1.830 60'

Of course, this isn't an apples to apples comparison because these are all different cars on different days at different tracks. But it does seem to show that the power of the 181 and 185 pulleys have yet to be truly exploited. I imagine that this will all change this summer with the advent of better cooling mods. I think the larger pulleys will take the lead as long as they can keep cool.
Riot is running a 185 and is in the high 11's fwiw...

We compared the same modded cars on the same track running on the same day.

Like you said, dragtimes is not really apples to apples. Different tunes, tracks, times of the year, cooling....etc...
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tom2112
Here's the top three time slips from dragtimes.com, arranged by each pulley:

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Code3 (original size)
Thumper SRT6 - 12.114 @ 113.290 with a 1.782 60'
Neal Mimikos - 12.175 @ 114.240 with a 1.783 60'
Scott McIntosh - 12.218 @ 112.900 with a 1.781 60'
Man, I know I don't post too often, but can't a guy get some props?
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 09:51 AM
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I'm sold on the 178 + 68mm Code3. Just got to get a new belt and the belt wrap kit back on and I expect to pick up a little more than yesterday. I am truly impressed by the people running just the Code3 pulley. They seem to be putting down some nice numbers. The 185 should be the best of the crank pulleys theoretically if the intake temps are kept under control, but maybe no one else besides Riot and 240 has really track tested them. The only way to truly compare these different combo's is to track test them on the same car, the same day and log all the variables that are possible.
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 10:03 AM
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Unfortunately, for some of us the closest track is over 2hrs away and the drive sucks, traffic, tolls, and two crappy bridges to cross did I mention crappy roads.
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 10:05 AM
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I think another shootout is in order for you east coast guys this summer.
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 11:08 AM
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Way to go Thumper!! Now if only Flower would put up some good numbers. I don't know if no one else noticed your time but I sure did. It's just when someone goes faster it puts the pressure on the rest of us to improve. And I have a long way to go.

Les
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 11:13 AM
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I believe I am on Dragtimes...from the 12.3 times??

Look under my real name....Kirk B..........

Haven't posted any of like the last two months of last summer...around 150-200 slips.

My car with the 185 has been on the track over 500 times between three tracks....US 41, US 66 (I am now banned cause of no roll cage) and Byron (which I always call rockford,and that was on wheelie weekend so great track prep)

Been in the 11's at 66 That is why I am banned,Byron on two seperate ocassions.
I have posted before I am not consistent...but I have dipped into the 11's.
Now hung over and no matter what heat/humidity I pull mean 12.2's all day long!...Damn car spins to much....Now if it would hook up better...
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MD SRT6
Wow this thread got off track, what I'm asking is for real 1/4 mile track #'s with either the 181 pulley and the 185 pulley so we can see if they are any better than the 178 that's tried and true!
you can't compare different cars,,,some run better than others,, last week 4 of us went to a 1/4 mile track,, two roadsters both with 181 pulley and the same tune, same intake, one ran 12.5 the other ran 12.7 they got about 5 runs each all about the same for each car,, and we also had two coupes there , both with SC pulley and tune,, one car ran 12.6 5 times in a row and the other car ran 12.2 for 5 runs ,, so you need to test the pullys on the same car and hopefuly the same day, good luck,, jim
 

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Old 03-30-2009 | 12:16 PM
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i upgraded from a code3 s/c pulley (comparable to 178) plus belt wrap kit to 185......all im gonna say......WOW. my car now officially hauls ***
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 12:31 PM
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Hey Jturkel have you made any runs yet?
Times?

My 181 time was 12.5 with MAJOR tire spin.
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 12:41 PM
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Hey Jturkel have you made any runs yet?
Times?

My 181 time was 12.5 with MAJOR tire spin.
no but i will this weekend. DA will be worse and it is gong to be a different track, but i can definitely tell this thing is faster. will keep you updated
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper SRT6
Man, I know I don't post too often, but can't a guy get some props?
Sorry Thumper! I pulled those times out of a spreadsheet I made up about a month ago. That was before your 12.114 time. Nice work on a Code3!! I'm impressed. I hope I can get there this summer.
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 02:45 PM
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Sorry Thumper! I pulled those times out of a spreadsheet I made up about a month ago. That was before your 12.114 time. Nice work on a Code3!! I'm impressed. I hope I can get there this summer.
Hey Tom, it's all good, I was just messing with you!

Based on your mods, I'm sure you'll get there. It took some negative DA for me to get that time. Unfortunately, the heat and humidity are returning to Florida.

I went to the track twice last week. On Wednesday I was running 12.3's (DA around 1000' or a little less). Friday I ran 12.4's (DA around 1500'). The track prep was great both nights and I was launching just like I did when I ran the 12.1's. I may have to invest in a weather tracker so I can get an idea of what times to expect at the track (based on DA) and also so I don't have to rely on the DA calculator on dragtimes.

Come to think of it, I should get motivated and enter all my slips into a spreadsheet and graph my times versus DA. Might show some interesting info!
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper SRT6
Hey Tom, it's all good, I was just messing with you!

Based on your mods, I'm sure you'll get there. It took some negative DA for me to get that time. Unfortunately, the heat and humidity are returning to Florida.

I went to the track twice last week. On Wednesday I was running 12.3's (DA around 1000' or a little less). Friday I ran 12.4's (DA around 1500'). The track prep was great both nights and I was launching just like I did when I ran the 12.1's. I may have to invest in a weather tracker so I can get an idea of what times to expect at the track (based on DA) and also so I don't have to rely on the DA calculator on dragtimes.

Come to think of it, I should get motivated and enter all my slips into a spreadsheet and graph my times versus DA. Might show some interesting info!
I know how you feel! My 12.2 runs were at a DA of 1200'. Can't us Code 3 guys catch a negative DA break? I think I have a better chance of catching some better DA's here in Texas, we still have decent weather, they just keep closing the track due to high wind!!!!
 
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Old 03-30-2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by amx1397
you can't compare different cars,,,some run better than others,, last week 4 of us went to a 1/4 mile track,, two roadsters both with 181 pulley and the same tune, same intake, one ran 12.5 the other ran 12.7 they got about 5 runs each all about the same for each car,, and we also had two coupes there , both with SC pulley and tune,, one car ran 12.6 5 times in a row and the other car ran 12.2 for 5 runs ,, so you need to test the pullys on the same car and hopefuly the same day, good luck,, jim
No the cars are the same, the drivers skill levels are different.( unless one has better tires/slicks ) Because all SRT6's began with 330/349hp whichever number you believe, + exact same mods, Or are you saying to be scientific - the same person/same car /same tires needs to try different pulleys? If so I would agree with this, I don't know if that has happened yet, but thats exactly what needs to happen to determine the truth, and on the same day with a little rest/cooling between runs. I personally watched a code3,178,181,and 185 all same day,same conditions and considering there mods which were similar, the 178 and code 3 was the fastest that day. This is what I saw with my own eyes, and I know most of the guys had raced many times before.
 


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