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Old 03-16-2008 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by robby363
Are you sure your checking the right pump? There are 2 pumps one of them is for the heater, which is below the passenger side headlight that looks like a intercooler pump. The intercooler pump is down lower near the bottom corner of the radiator.
Yes, I am sure that I swapped out the right pump. When I was first looking for the pump, I did see that there were 2 that looked very simular. I changed the pump that is lower and near the HE, and the output goes into the HE so I know thats the right one.

My car will fall on it's face anytime that button is engauged and it will stay like that no matter how long I have it floored for.

Also, My check engine light comes on all the time when I'm doing this, and I know it has to be from the air intake temp sensor. That is why I think it is the supercharger clutch. It has to be something that is causing the air intake temperature to get very hot and set off that sensor.

I have a feeling I might have 2 seperate problems. The kickdown switch button might not have anything to do with the supercharger not working.

Either way, it's going to the dealer tomorrow, and I'm not taking it back until it's fixed.
 
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Old 03-16-2008 | 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Replaced IC pump, car still sluggish!?!

Maybe it's just a bad air intake temp sensor. It does keep the supercharger from kicking in when the temp rises. I need my pump replaced, but I not sure if I want to try to convince the dealer it needs a new one and have it replaced with another oem piece of junk or just do it myself and replace it with the Johnson CM30 pump.
 
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Old 03-16-2008 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Replaced IC pump, car still sluggish!?!

Originally Posted by robby363
Maybe it's just a bad air intake temp sensor. It does keep the supercharger from kicking in when the temp rises. I need my pump replaced, but I not sure if I want to try to convince the dealer it needs a new one and have it replaced with another oem piece of junk or just do it myself and replace it with the Johnson CM30 pump.
It very much could be just that, I am going to hope it is something that easy, but that still doesn't explain that kickdown switch problem. Wonder if that could be a problem in the computer or something
 
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Old 03-16-2008 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by arhshelby
It very much could be just that, I am going to hope it is something that easy, but that still doesn't explain that kickdown switch problem. Wonder if that could be a problem in the computer or something
When my supercharger failed I had the same lack of acceleration but I don't remember if I was activating the kickdown switch or not - most likely I was. Next time when you drive your car and you can't accelerate, use the autostick and then check to see if the kickdown switch works.

I don't thick my CEL was on either but this may just be triggered from the lack of engine output.

The dealership tested my supercharger by applying voltage to the clutch and seeing if the clutch would engage. I don't know how involved this is but I got the impression that it was a relatively easy check for the dealer.

If your supercharger needs to be replaced and there is no unit local then be prepared to wait 4 or 5 days for a replacement to ship (the clutch and supercharger are one big assy so the clutch can't be replaced separately). Replacing the supercharger is not fast nor easy so expect the job to take another 4 or 5 days. Also, there is a breather line attached under one of the intakes (left one I believe) near the throttle body. My dealer did not reattach this line so you may want to check yours after your dealer finishes up with your car.

Finally, check that your supercharger pulley is not loose and sliding off it's shaft - especially after your dealer monkeys wth the clutch. My pulley slide off it's shaft and ground into tubing in front of the engine and also a couple of other pulleys. The acccessory belt was also damaged. My dealer claimed they did not loosen the supercharger pulley during troubleshooting and probably didn't - but you never know and if the clutch is failing, it just might be due to a loose pulley.
 
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