Saw the GTR at the auto show in Detroit. It is a big car. IMO, the looks are OK, but that thing is going to be evil on the street. Wait til the modders get their hands on them. Youch.

 

it'll be a whole new category of ricers, instead of dumb kids with fart can mufflers on their Civics!

 

People with endless amounts of cash as well.....

 

That's one thing I'll give the new GTR. They rated and released it with something like 13PSI.

HAH! Wait until you see what it does at 30.

 

The styling of the car is so unimaginative and boring, I wouldn't even drive it in Japan, regardless of how well it performs.

 

You bring up a good point something tells me this car is going to be very rare though. All the guys I know who can afford them don't want them. They say why ? The question is why blow 70k on this car when I could get so much more for my money. When the tuners get there hands on it, it will be just like tunning an sl cost an arm and a leg.

 

yeah, more tacky stick-on "mods" comin' up!

it's like vinyl tops and stick-on "portholes" on new Lincolns...ugh.

 

Nissan's timing is not great. They'll sell out the first year at prices ranging from list to a pretty high vig over list, but unless they keep the yr 2 production number super-low the market on it will be very soft. Acura and Toyota/Lexus each have their own 400+hp supercar coming in 2009/10. Chevy is adding the S/C ZR1 to the Vette line as a precursor to the C7. Viper is already @ 600hp in its latest incarnation. Plus plenty of Porsches and the Audi R8 to contend with.

There's only so much demand, and in that price-range superfast doesn't always translate to super-sales. Appearance and mechanics have no discernable link to the Skylines as previously hyped, the initial reviews seem to be that the car is so non-demanding at higher speeds it's not that exciting to drive, no manual gearbox available (we've heard that complaint), and the appearance is probably a bit too similar to the G37.

No, don't race them. But let the dust settle down on these and if it floats your boat you can probably get a pretty decent deal 3 years from now on a GTR stablemate for your SRT-6. I'll give it this over most of the rest -- it does have a pretty decent back seat for a car that can comfortably break the 4 second mark.

 

The G-37 will be upgrading to G-38 soon. BMW 335i has already won that battle and Infinti G-37 sales are stale, Too slow and BMW 335i proves it. If you aint in the low 13's , you might as well be drivin/sellin a 4 door.

 

GTR has one thing that none of those other cars have going for it - it has history. It's the reason why Mustangs sell so well. It just has a bloodline associated with it that ensures legitimacy.

It's the same thing with M3's and Mercedes DTM cars (like the 190E e2.3-16V Cosworth or the CLK-DTM AMG). Why are they so special? Well, it's because they represent a racing history that people can "buy into".

Same deal with the Subaru WRX STI and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. One buys into the rallying heritage that each car represents (even though homologation rules have made the actually rally cars much, much different than the actual road cars.)

Corvette? Same deal.

I think the Crossfire has something similar. One "buys into" the interesting story of Chrysler and Daimler-Benz merging together to build a beautiful GT car. I might be stretching here a bit, but I honestly like that about the Crossfire.

In any case, I don't think it's possible to write off the Nissan GT-R. It's the latest evolution in a line of cars that stretches back over 50 years. It has always represented the pinnacle of Nissan's sports car line and this car does just that. Whether it's better than this or that, or whether it will sell, I believe, is irrelevant. Just the fact that it exists makes the world of automobiles that little bit better.

 

Funny comments in this thread I remember when there were people saying that they wouldn't buy a Chrysler for $45K even if it had an AMG engine! Now, everyone seems to want a damn SRT6! The Nissan will have its faithful buyers and will sell very well, I'm sure.

This horsepower war will end very soon. Just wait for the new CAFE standards to force everyone to play a bit differently. A lot of these engines will just have to go. I wish Nissan the best; I'm just one of those people who would buy one, but can't afford it. But hey, I've got an SRT to keep me cool for now!

 

Because now they are only 18k-25k. If i had $45K to blow it'd be on a used viper or c6 vette.

And as far as history of the skyline, the few loyal followers of japanese supercars NOT AVAILABLE to the US is scarce. Most of them are younger guys like myself that jumped on the "import scence" in the mid-late 90's. I dont think many 40 yr old+ gearheads will remember or care about the Skylines heritage...when the vette is from good ole USA and is an icon of perfomance and the american dream. But the ones with the cash to spend on this car is likely 35-40 yr old +++, so im not even sure who it caters to anymore.

If the price drops like the srt6 sure ill pick one up....but then again, its not a chrysler...lol.

 

I stopped reading motorcycle magazines back in the 1980s because every year they were faster/better bikes. I still have my 1977 Honda Goldwing (and now you know the source of my signature) and enjoy it's looks. I rarely ride it, but it always starts after a little fussing.

There's always a better/faster and MORE EXPENSIVE car. I picked the Crossfire, both of them, because I loved their looks. Neither one is modded. I find them fast enough to get into speeding trouble anywhere.

It will be interesting to see how many GTR's are driving around in 20 years. I am counting on both my Crossfires being there.

 

It's never a pretty picture discussing one car on the web forum of another. You may as well tell your wife that the dress does make her butt look big -- or the girl that just passed the two of you is really hot.

 

My late wife used to point out hot women to me. But only 'cause she knew I was solidy anchored. She once told me she didnt care where I got my appetite as long as I ate at home. What more can you ask for.

 

Performance awesome

Looks not so much

I'll take a 911 turbo any day of the week, sorry. Porsche pedigree still means something to me since I've owned 3 of them

 

Nope, it's not the dress.

 

The Zo6 woulnt touch the skyline on a road course....the Viper yes

 

WEll put.....

 

I agree I read that and it all started to make since to me. Although I believe the crowd is going to have to be older and you wont see them riced out like the civic. Someone will come up with chip to run that turbo at 30 lbs with turbo tuner set up like a banks kit and that GTR will be unstoppable. The problem is going to be who can afford them and why not buy a used Ferrari at that point.