LOL... It's about the Crossfire, don't worry, I know how you guys living near West Hollywood are... LOL

How hard would it be for you to develop a MOTEC style computer for the Crossfire ?

 

Which computer? Just look up the MOTEC site, there is a many variants there. As for development time, it dependents on if working on it full time or a hobby like Wayne1992. Typically, if there is a product already on the market, it is cheaper (time / money) wise to buy it. Unless a) you doing it as a hobby, got time to kill.
b) there is a deficiency in the curreny product and improvement can be made.

Throw out what you want in your dream ECU/monitoring unit (this goes for everyone not just HDDP).
We can evaluate the specs and go from there.

But be warned, if this goes on as an opensource / hobby, you might not get anything back before your car hits 200k miles.

chung


Unless your proposition includes funding.

 

You're right, nobody wants to put forth the effort to produce performance products on a dead vehicle... too bad... I produce TV shows and race the Crossfire, could have been a perfect business opportunity.

Here's a promo, though not completed yet, of the new TV show I'm doing about the tuning market... I was sitting here editing it as your message came in... It's not complete, but I have international distribution for the show already...

Sorry to have bothered you...

http://www.hollywooddigitalimaging.com/ATTV_Preview.mov

 

Didn't want to sound like I am trying to blow you off. Too much negativity on this forum already.
Just my view on the development time necessary to bring a quality product to market. There is a big difference when you are developing an One-off ECU for your own use compare to developing ECU for the mass market (Quality Control, gov regs, customer support). Believe me, I thought about a startup before.

As building an one-off ECU for myself, that is still in the plans. Too bad this thing call grad school sucking up all my time, along with this car/forum.

As for the show, looks good. Is this intended for syndicated TV? I do recall SpeedChannel has a show call Import Tuners, how did that do?

chung

 

Look folks, all this talk about a cheap super charger, why don't you just remove the fog lamps and run your air inlet hoses down into the holes. Duct the air into your engines that way. Install your fog lamps at a different location or just do away with them until you feel a need to reinstall. The location of the inlets would be right out there in the front of the car, you would get max ram air induction, the faster you drive the more pressure. The way your going with this fan motor, kinda sounds like something running inside my computer. hooah

 

I would, did that with my '92 stang, it had a 6" hole for the foglight, but the fog light hole is too small on the crossfire. To get any sort of positive pressure to build, you need to start with a larger than 3" (manifold size) and taper down, to get an good increase in pressure (Bernoulli principle).

But if you find a frontal cross section area larger than 3" then you are in business.

chung

 

Sure, just come on over. I only live in Georgia. Ha, Just email me.

Sorry I didn't get back sooner, I've been sick.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by uclaXfire

I bow to old school EE master. I am about to wrap up my M.S. EE soon, hence springing for the new car.

Question/answer #1,

Actually, if you don't have access to the power enrichment tables in the Engine Management Computer about the only thing you can do is increase fuel pressure with a variable fuel pressure regulator. Take the car to the dyno and make a few runs with a wide band O2 sensor in place. You would adjust the fuel pressure regulator until you got about 12.7:1 air fuel ratio for max performance. This only affects WOT (wide open throttle or Power Enrichment mode).



Question/answer #2,

If I understand the question, 1/4 throttle would be restrictive enough to maybe allow 100 cfm to pass into the plenum. If you tried to force a little more air at 1/4 throttle maybe 150 cfm the engine would initially lean out then the O2 sensor would detect a lean condition and ask the BLM (block learn mode) to update the volume metric efficiency table. RPM would pick up.

 

Good god, I feel like a prostitute!

 

Guys, since we are on the subject, I have a very good friend that is quite knowledgeable when it comes to the CAN (Controller Area Network) buss that our XF used to communicate. I will ask him if he has the ability to hack into the computer. I think he told me that he already has but did not know how to access the data. Maybe we can get some of our European buddies to help us here.

For anybody that finds performance tuning interesting go to this site. It is geared toward GM cars. I use this software.

www.tunercat.com

 

Wayne: you're a wealth of knowledge... Thank you for sharing on this subject. I'm really looking for engine management software that I can use for the car... I need every advantage I can for this little underpowered car that is now classed in SCCA T3.

Obviously the programs are available, otherwise PowerChip, Upsolute, etc. would not be able to offer an upgrade... We just need to find those files...

 

I agree. The fact that you can get a flashed computer upgrade tells me somebody is doing it.

 

It tells me that the program is available from somewhere. When I got my "powerchip 93" the guys who had the program were just a couple of knucklehead computer geeks that had a PC laptop... They worked out of a small non-descript junky warehouse in West Los Angeles... By all means, they sure as hell didn't have a big banner outside the building saying POWERCHIP... I'm looking at their invoice right now... They don't even have a phone # on it... LOL just an address... 2209 Federal Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90064...

They may have hacked the software, or purchased the program from someone... Either way, it's available... We just have to find it...

 

One thing I'm wondering is how standardized the computers are. My mentor once told me that ECM's, PCM's and OBDII computers were all basically the same among most of the models. I wonder if in order to sell cars in the USA the Europeans have to use a standardized OBDII computer. FYI, a single scan tool will generally scan a number of different type cars, foreign and domestic, which indicates to me there is some standardization. Maybe some disgruntled Mercedes employee will step in here and spill the beans and then my spoiler won't tell on me until I hit 80 mph. Ha

 

Wayne: The scan tool is called the DRBIII and manufactured by a company called Miller Special Tools... Obviously this is the place to start...

 

I'll check it out but they're not going to cut their own throat and give out proprietary information. BUT, if some propeller hat on this forum could take one of these scan tools and trap some of the commands that would cause the computer to spill its guts we would be heading in the right direction. Also, reading data tables and actually changing them are two different things. I think I may be getting into an area here where I may be more dangerous than effective.

 

HDDP, check this out:
http://www.ukware.com/

http://www.andywhittaker.com/ecu/

I have talked to this guy before and he is a super dude and may be able to answer some of our questions. I also have a copy of his software. It is free and you might want to download a copy just to inspect it.

 

I think I'm going to buy the Super Eram for my 90 Porsche S2. Thats 1.7 psi of boost which going by their dyno charts comes out averaging to about 10 hp minimum. Not bad. I know people will make fun of it but these guys have been around a long time and have quite a bit of good testimonials plus a couple of magazine reviews with dyno charts.

Heck, at least they provide dyno charts. What about all these rip off chip manufacturers and cone filter rip offs.

I'm going to try it on the Porsche and let you know how it goes. If it works, one of these is going in the Xfire for sure.

 

Actually I misread. The 10 hp gain is with the regular Eram. Its supposedly from 10 to 20 with the Super Eram. Time will tell.

 

You might want to check out this guy... He offers a bit more than a bilge fan...

http://www.boosthead.com/updates.php