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Old 12-02-2005 | 10:22 AM
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Good find Andrew! That's my point here in this forum, if you want to argue something it's always good to support it with some materials and comparative studies.

Anything about the Hyper Voltage System?
 
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Old 12-02-2005 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyril Baldwin
Good find Andrew! That's my point here in this forum, if you want to argue something it's always good to support it with some materials and comparative studies.

Anything about the Hyper Voltage System?
No problem and if it wasn't so late at night when I posted the previous comments I would have took the time to dig out the articles myself. Remember some practical and common sense needs to be applied to all "quick fix" products.

While it would be nice to get sparkling white teeth in 5 minutes, thousands of dollars of money from the government from just one book and all my extra weight issues solved by a bottle of pills that costs $159.00 a bottle, these things don't amount to much more than crafty marketing schemes.

Old saying of "If its too good to be true, it probably is" also applies to car modifications...
 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 01:26 AM
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Time to waste some money while saving for my Renntech 404 HP as the warranty wears out for 6k more miles. Installed the Hypervoltage system and I'm happy with it as it gives me more torque and quick acceleration than my previous set-up.

To contest this claim is to try it! C'mon you can afford a Crossfire and cannot afford this?



 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 02:08 AM
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Nice install Cyril: That little puppy looks like a show car under the hood... I haven't seen a picture for awhile, you are really doing some great mods...

Mine is starting to look like a beat-up track car compared to yours, but that's what I bought it for...

Keep up the good work and don't pay attention to the nay sayers... Heck, if I listened to them, we probably wouldn't be watching HD TV right now...
 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 11:03 AM
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Way off topic, but Cyril how did you do that CAI? It looks like the one off the drifter car. Could you give us some specs?
 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyril Baldwin
Time to waste some money while saving for my Renntech 404 HP as the warranty wears out for 6k more miles. Installed the Hypervoltage system and I'm happy with as it gives me more torque and quick acceleration than my previous set-up. To contest this claim is to try it!

C'mon you can afford a Crossfire and cannot afford this?
You are a hoot...Any pre/post dyno runs to verify this "more torque" claim ?...Well at least the wire color matches your car and it looks like it should be doing something...

I also do have a question on the intake. Does your tubing extend past that connection point by the belts and to the front grill area/or underneath the car? ...or is that the connection point to your filters with some chrome covers ? If it's the latter it would mean your ingesting hot engine bay air into your engine...if that's the case maybe you shouldn't do any dyno runs since the results might be quite disappointing...
 

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Old 02-06-2006 | 06:05 PM
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respodoc: maybe I read your posts wrong, but it seems like you're always just a negative pri*k... can you explain ?
 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 09:31 PM
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respodoc: maybe I read your posts wrong, but it seems like you're always just a negative pri*k... can you explain ?
Well if you call being skeptical of the claim "if you can afford a Crossfire and cannot afford this?" Negative...then I guess in your limited way of thinking...I would be...

If you race cars even half of what you try to brag about you see these type of "miracle" mod's all the time. Nice thing about a using a scientific method to this is that with unbiased, reputable data and only a very limited number of possible variables, one can prove or disprove almost any claim...
 
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Old 02-06-2006 | 09:54 PM
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That's why you have to try it since you don't believe in what the manufacturer's said about their product. If you're not happy then throw it on Ebay!

It's just like having your car chipped...after a few miles of driving, you will then question if there's really some increase in power since you get use to how it runs! There are no dynos to support it except subjective testimonies from a few who has it in their cars.

My custom cold-air intake:

The tip of the filter cover has a heat sink encased flexi-tube running towards the inlet which was widened to fit a bigger inlet behind the front grill for more air intake. The SS tube contains micro louver airshields to keep the air cool as it passes, at the same time narrowing the tube for increased air pressure. End of the tube contains a turbonator to provide air turbulence. The engine cover was rigged inside to remove the chamber walls for easier and more air access.

I do appreciate the criticisms as I can based my improvements to what I'm missing in my project. It's my light to perfection and next thing you know you'll be buying my stuff...LOL!

Still working on the accurate specs as this is still experimental.

You gotta try it to believe it!
 

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Old 02-07-2006 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyril Baldwin
Actually if you check out www.greenfilters.com they already use the same principle of the tornado incorporated with their $300 each twister green filter for crossfires.

If you have high - end home theater system, hyper voltage system is the same principle as the Monster Cable Voltage regulator / line conditioner and high - end gold cables. They make the sound much more cleaner and crispier and the colors much better than regular cables. With a 1,000 watts subs in my trunk, although I have a separate battery for my audio system, I bet it still takes off some power in my crossfire.

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The purpose behind monster cable it not necessarily about power it is about getting a better frequency response. Higher frequencies have a tendency to travel on the outer surface of a wire (Skin Effect) This is why the cables are huge, so you have more travel area for the frequency/voltage. This is basically used to enhance analog type signals such as speaker wires. I think that the Hyper Voltage system is probably nothing more than a large capacitor, this will store a reserve of voltage and clamp any unwanted frequency noise.
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 02:45 PM
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It's my light to perfection and next thing you know you'll be buying my stuff...LOL!
ohh, I see...so you also sell this stuff then ??...ok, this all makes sense now...
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 03:03 PM
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The purpose behind monster cable it not necessarily about power it is about getting a better frequency response. Higher frequencies have a tendency to travel on the outer surface of a wire (Skin Effect) This is why the cables are huge, so you have more travel area for the frequency/voltage. This is basically used to enhance analog type signals such as speaker wires. I think that the Hyper Voltage system is probably nothing more than a large capacitor, this will store a reserve of voltage and clamp any unwanted frequency noise.
So basically a $230 dollar Farad cap with some pretty wires ?

I still can't see where they even try to come off with this increased power, torque, etc. stuff...

Only possible far-fetched way would be in the very, very short time the limited voltage reserve power was discharging providing this "hyper-voltage".

So, in essence, .1% of the time the car has maybe 1 or 2 more hp and for the remaining 99.9% of the time...your losing h.p. due to the increased parasitic demand placed on the car's charging system to power and maintain a charge on this thing ?
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 03:08 PM
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Spend the $$$ on a blower or turbo, anything else is pointless. However, it is fun to tinker but it is tinkering just the same.
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 03:31 PM
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One thing's for sure...they make money and you don't!
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 06:33 PM
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One thing's for sure...they make money and you don't!
LOL... the guy that sold snake oil made money too (off of fools).
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 07:05 PM
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Cyril: I would bet you're headlights don't dim momentarily like they used to... and you don't get an RPM fluctuation caused by amperage drop which is inherent in this car and all the SLK's...
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 07:40 PM
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Probably the increase HP that they claim is from the HP that we lose due to the fact that they use cables that are 10 times less impedance as higher resistance from factory ground cables affect the ignition system and other electrical system components, obstructing the performance of our crossfires. It stabilizes the voltage flow from the battery so that our cars can maximize the full HP.

I would have returned this product and rather have my Upsolute chip reflashed for $150 (just to be sure that my XFIRE is really chipped) if I'm not happy with it but I've noticed some significant power after I installed the hypervoltage system, therefore, I'm keeping it.
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 09:55 PM
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I'll chime in to Cyril's defense here. If you'll look at the early postings on this thread I was skeptical as well, but Cyril posted a link to an article of a third-party review of the product that showed Dyno runs. Therefore I would give it a serious second look. If a manufacturer claims their product adds hp/torque, that's one thing. If they post before/after dyno runs to back up their claim then I take a closer look. If an independent 3rd party backs up those claims, then its most likely the real deal. I'll give Cyril the benefit of the doubt on this one and defer to his real-life experiences with the product. Once my warranty expires I will seriously consider getting one for myself as well.
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 10:30 PM
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If they post before/after dyno runs to back up their claim then I take a closer look. If an independent 3rd party backs up those claims, then its most likely the real deal.
But as pointed out earlier also, the test car was an early 90's model and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the first time the wires had be inspected/changed. So, while an increase in h.p. was noted, similar gains would have also happened if they just installed new OEM wires for a fraction of the cost from there local AutoZone...If you don't think this type of sloppy (and sometimes purposeful) types of testing goes on...just look at some of the "pre" and "post" aftermarket air filter runs...
 
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Old 02-07-2006 | 10:46 PM
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But as pointed out earlier also, the test car was an early 90's model and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the first time the wires had be inspected/changed. So, while an increase in h.p. was noted, similar gains would have also happened if they just installed new OEM wires for a fraction of the cost from there local Autozone...If you don't think this type of sloppy (and sometimes purposeful) types of testing goes on...just look at some of the "pre" and "post" aftermarket air filter runs...
GAWD!!! If you don't have anything to add but hypotheticals and negative comments, just give it a rest... If Cyril feels that the product provides performance for his car, who are you to say it doesn't ? Geezus, you're the only person on this forum that really pisses me off with your crappy comments all the time... You have never offered any bit of useful information, just negative crap... And still you have yet to provide one photo of this illusive SRT6 that you own, with all of it's alleged modifications.
 


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