End of the Crossfire
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I never ceased to be amazed at how perceptions change. This fabulous car was designed, concieved and produced in record time.. why, mainly because all the working parts are tried tested and to a greater extent excellent quality. The car is then built to German standards, on the same production as Porsche.. and personally I think the build is excellent too. so now we have an eye popping car, built to truly world class standards, that only a very few people have ever heard of.. and with a wonderfully low production run... we then get given the best warranty Chrysler offers, and a free loan car every time it takes a trip in to the shop. we have dealers call us after each service to make sure were happy... we then have the amazing experience of driving a car on the streets which turns heads everytime you drive anywhere.... is it any wonder those dear journalists are besides themselves..what can they say, everyone loves the cars looks.. worse it was designed by an American company that really knows design... and is full of German bits.. they think its cheating, because the sum of the parts is greater than the whole... its not meant to be like this.. I mean how can a car conceived like this be better than its original SLK320 ..answer .. "Better by Design"
So now we complain that its not holding value, define value.. "Quality is remembered long after the price has been paid" ..maybe it should have been priced at the fabled $60k and all would be well.. the boy racers would have passed it by for the sloppy built 350Z, and it would compete on even terms with the SLK320, Infiniti, and Lexus..etc etc..
Personally I think Chrysler is using this car as an experiment...they were never sure that both sides of the new corporation could work together in harmony.... if this and the 300 is anything to go by, if I were Ford or GM I would be a very worried exec indeed.
.... and the more gas prices rise the better we are to own one.. thank you Chrysler for taking us out of the world of inane boring vehicles..and treating us to such a lovely machine.
So now we complain that its not holding value, define value.. "Quality is remembered long after the price has been paid" ..maybe it should have been priced at the fabled $60k and all would be well.. the boy racers would have passed it by for the sloppy built 350Z, and it would compete on even terms with the SLK320, Infiniti, and Lexus..etc etc..
Personally I think Chrysler is using this car as an experiment...they were never sure that both sides of the new corporation could work together in harmony.... if this and the 300 is anything to go by, if I were Ford or GM I would be a very worried exec indeed.
.... and the more gas prices rise the better we are to own one.. thank you Chrysler for taking us out of the world of inane boring vehicles..and treating us to such a lovely machine.
Re: End of the Crossfire
Originally Posted by Steffen
Why say all DC will stop to build the XF?? Today I have seen one at my dealer and the last 5 VIN # are around 54K!! That shows not as DC will stop the XF!!
Only speculation right now. We're half way into the 2005 model year and there are still many new 2004s available; not a good sign.
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I have found the best car I have ever had before. I love to drive it, I feel me great if I drive it. I love the US-Style of the car and our good German quality. I can understand why you want sell the car but think about why you have buy the car in the past. I think you love the style and maybe you feel young if you are inside the car. I'm very happy how a little boy with a new toy ;-). Nobody buy that car with the brain you buy it with you heart! That you loose money you have known if you sign the contract at the dealer. I can tell you that I have loose much money on my Mercedes Benz E-Class too as I have sold the car that's why I can understand your step. BUT I have never had a better ride as the XF and the Benz was good too but not as good as that car. You spend so much money on the car why you have done it??? Not to safe money over years you want buy a good time with a lot of fun or not?
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Guys I've got to say i'm amazed how blinkered you appear to be.
Yes we love the car and there is nothing else like it on the roads in the UK, but....
and its a big but, a car in the UK cannot lose 12k in 12 months that is the worst drop i have seen on any premium brand car, DCUK have dropped the list price from 29k to 21k, the mazda and Nissan Z have both held their prices and are selling well.
The Crossfire has bombed big time in the Uk and DCUK are in panic mode and in the process are screwing the few of us that bought the car at the start.
We buy cars with our heads and our hearts, but when we come to sell (which all we all do in time) it's the head that will hurt with a huge drop in value.
John i understand entirely and you've made the right choice, sadly my car has too higher mileage so i'm stuck and will have to hope that the loss seems a little more acceptable in a years time.
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
Yes we love the car and there is nothing else like it on the roads in the UK, but....
and its a big but, a car in the UK cannot lose 12k in 12 months that is the worst drop i have seen on any premium brand car, DCUK have dropped the list price from 29k to 21k, the mazda and Nissan Z have both held their prices and are selling well.
The Crossfire has bombed big time in the Uk and DCUK are in panic mode and in the process are screwing the few of us that bought the car at the start.
We buy cars with our heads and our hearts, but when we come to sell (which all we all do in time) it's the head that will hurt with a huge drop in value.
John i understand entirely and you've made the right choice, sadly my car has too higher mileage so i'm stuck and will have to hope that the loss seems a little more acceptable in a years time.
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
Re: End of the Crossfire
Originally Posted by mbepic
You have missed the point completely; you have not lost a cent until you sell the car, then that's it, done, final.
The car isn't going to be worthless tomorrow, for Gods sake. If you like the car, who cares what the residual value is. Enjoy the car.
I don't HAVE to keep my car; I keep it because I enjoy it regardless of value.
The car isn't going to be worthless tomorrow, for Gods sake. If you like the car, who cares what the residual value is. Enjoy the car.
I don't HAVE to keep my car; I keep it because I enjoy it regardless of value.
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Lord percy I really dont think you are being completely correct, I lived in the UK and know that a great many cars are sold for 50% of their retail value often.. let me see now the Banks buy there cars with a 40% discount to start with and then sell them after 6 months.. the hire fleets dont allow cars over 13k miles... sure the sticker price may have fallen, its not going to affect you unless you sell.. when you will surely lose.. for now.. enjoy the car, use it.. like a house its not really an investment..
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As far as I know my dealer will pay me $20k for my '04 with 12,000 miles on it but I saw in their used car lot a blaze red Crossfire with 26,000 miles priced at $27k. That change my mind completely in trading my Crossfire for an SRT-6 or a used Viper...hell'no I don't want DC to make more money other than the price I paid in my XFIREX when I bought it!
Maybe the Crossfire will be a classic later and will be priced more the fact that it is the first concept car cross-breed between Mercedes and Chrysler. Just imagine how much the first batch of Barbie dolls are worth now!
Maybe the Crossfire will be a classic later and will be priced more the fact that it is the first concept car cross-breed between Mercedes and Chrysler. Just imagine how much the first batch of Barbie dolls are worth now!
Re: End of the Crossfire
Originally Posted by lordpercy
John i understand entirely and you've made the right choice, sadly my car has too higher mileage so i'm stuck and will have to hope that the loss seems a little more acceptable in a years time.
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
If this was not what you had in mind as far as selling only a year or so after the purchase, you got me baffled what your motive for selling is??????????????
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From what I've seen, you bought high and are going to sell low. The lucky bastard that picks up your car cheap will be the one laughing. So.... why not keep it and you could be the lucky bastard!
All that being said, you obviously have other motives to sell and it can't be because you think the value is down as that is the big reason to keep it longer!
Your business!
Good Luck!
All that being said, you obviously have other motives to sell and it can't be because you think the value is down as that is the big reason to keep it longer!
Your business!
Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Dan Root
Why buy a car and then sell it just because sales are slow on the car you bought ! And prices are down ! You'd do better buying another at the low price and enjoying 2 spreading you losses over 2 cars .
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Dear Mr. John Johnson,
$55 grand, What were you thinking?
You skewered the pooch and want to blame others.
I paid less than half that and am very very happy with the car.
I bought the car because of the reasonable price for such a unique car with proven drivetrain. I'm not much of a gambler. Even so, if I decide to sell the car after six or more years of enjoyment I think there will be a good market for a car that looks like mine.
My god $55,000 dollars, What were you thinking?
That's it, I've finished.
Don
$55 grand, What were you thinking?
You skewered the pooch and want to blame others.
I paid less than half that and am very very happy with the car.
I bought the car because of the reasonable price for such a unique car with proven drivetrain. I'm not much of a gambler. Even so, if I decide to sell the car after six or more years of enjoyment I think there will be a good market for a car that looks like mine.
My god $55,000 dollars, What were you thinking?
That's it, I've finished.
Don
Re: End of the Crossfire
Originally Posted by lordpercy
Guys I've got to say i'm amazed how blinkered you appear to be.
Yes we love the car and there is nothing else like it on the roads in the UK, but....
and its a big but, a car in the UK cannot lose 12k in 12 months that is the worst drop i have seen on any premium brand car, DCUK have dropped the list price from 29k to 21k, the mazda and Nissan Z have both held their prices and are selling well.
The Crossfire has bombed big time in the Uk and DCUK are in panic mode and in the process are screwing the few of us that bought the car at the start.
We buy cars with our heads and our hearts, but when we come to sell (which all we all do in time) it's the head that will hurt with a huge drop in value.
John i understand entirely and you've made the right choice, sadly my car has too higher mileage so i'm stuck and will have to hope that the loss seems a little more acceptable in a years time.
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
Yes we love the car and there is nothing else like it on the roads in the UK, but....
and its a big but, a car in the UK cannot lose 12k in 12 months that is the worst drop i have seen on any premium brand car, DCUK have dropped the list price from 29k to 21k, the mazda and Nissan Z have both held their prices and are selling well.
The Crossfire has bombed big time in the Uk and DCUK are in panic mode and in the process are screwing the few of us that bought the car at the start.
We buy cars with our heads and our hearts, but when we come to sell (which all we all do in time) it's the head that will hurt with a huge drop in value.
John i understand entirely and you've made the right choice, sadly my car has too higher mileage so i'm stuck and will have to hope that the loss seems a little more acceptable in a years time.
Please do not think im having a go at anyone on the board but please respect others who have seen a near 50% drop in value after only 7k miles use...
Re: End of the Crossfire
Originally Posted by mbepic
Only speculation right now. We're half way into the 2005 model year and there are still many new 2004s available; not a good sign.