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Old 08-24-2014 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kitfel
Meh, I'm sorry I see now my comments could be easily misunderstood as vindictive or to claim ptsd for accident, which couldn't be farther from the truth, by persons unfamiliar with the facts and in light that many people trump up a very serious illness (ptsd) in these cases. I was merely stating that I am at a higher risk for anxiety relations due to prolonged childhood trauma, this is documented and if you believe it or not I don't care. It simply makes the accident a bit more complicated. And I don't think I even used the term "PTSD". Doubtful because it is not a completely accurate description of my medical history. [Edit "complex developmental ptsd" is an entire phrase, in which the term ptsd should not be taken out of context ;-)]

But this is a car forum, not a mental health forum, so I will edit the post because that is not appropriate discussion here. At the time I wrote it, despite that I am an intelligent well-spoken individual who has recovered from some unfortunate events in my life, I was in fact pretty annoyed at loss of sleep/nightmares, fear of driving and some other anxiety issues I've had since the accident that I had not anticipated when I wrote the OP. I apologize for including it in my comments, I have a concussion which may also have effected my poor word choices. Since no one has any context to understand this portion of my situation, regarding this... Nothing to see here... Move along.
I had no intend to bash you whatsoever, just stating some of the facts. Without starting an argument here it is unclear to me why you had to edit the original post in which you clearly mentioned "PTSD" (causes of such are complex and obviously don't make a difference here - complex dev. ptsd is a form of ptsd in this respect). Don't take this offensive as I am not necessarily accusing you of doing this, but my original thought was that people in our country often use medical/mental disabilities in vehicle crashes or other lawsuits to their advantage to squeeze money out of other peoples pockets. Of course if you suffered an injury as a result of a car crash you have the best right to do that but I'm simply saying there are people who shamelessly abuse this system by doing this!
Faking an injury does not necessarily mean someone is making up that injury but also pretending some mental disorder has been triggered worsened due to the accident when it really has not had any influence on the disorder. Once again, I am not assuming you are doing this it just struck a nerve as I have seen this done so many times and it's simply not right.
 
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Old 08-24-2014 | 12:46 PM
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With that being said I really hope you get your money's worth when it comes to the car. I hope it is either fixable or you will be able to purchase another X-fire without losing out. It's said that our cars are considered "totaled" with relatively minor damage due to the rapid decay of the value of a Chrysler! Best of luck and hope you will be driving a Xfire again very soon!
 
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Old 08-24-2014 | 02:17 PM
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Nick, c-pts developmental and related issues are a little different and I saw how could be misunderstood (not necessarily worse, but different). Have no desire to explain it. Google if you want. My original comments are preserved in your quote of my post, and I have nothing to hide. As you said not the place for a discussion of this nature, just tried to clarify a bit, remove what could be misunderstood, and move on I hope you will too. I know a lot about various anxiety and trauma disorders, more than I ever would have wanted to in my life.

It also pisses me off (terribly) when people use those conditions for improper gain, which I do not. In fact I have never taken disability or any other benefit (aside from health insurance which I pay for with earned wages) for my treatment, and have had a very successful life and career. I've never been in a car accident since age 17 (now 47) and I've never made an insurance claim or filed a lawsuit against anyone for any reason, this is all new to me and appreciate the help from the guys here because the crossfire is a bit of a unique vehicle with regards to value, parts, etc. I'm also very sorry to hear that trauma has also effected your life and am genuinely compassionate. (hug) Jenny
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 11:30 AM
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You do not need to explain yourself (health wise) to anyone, ever! Not once, not ever! Your health is your business and anyone who asks should be told to shut up! Mind their own business. I've had people 'grill' me and I've been polite (so far), but probably will snap soon! I'm looking forward to the snap!

Furthermore, I am sure you have a clear case of child abuse against this woman. Good luck!
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mel Gibson
Read it again,,,,,, He was NOT parked but TRAVELING meaning he was waiting to turn not parked......
kitfel was stationary at the stop sign, the report says she was stationary, yet the box for 'traveling' for HER is checked. Not talking about the other party.
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
kitfel was stationary at the stop sign, the report says she was stationary, yet the box for 'traveling' for HER is checked. Not talking about the other party.
Just think about this there are only 2 choices TRAVELING or PARKED. Parked is for if the car was parked and no one was in it and it was and hit. Traveling is for if the car was on the road going somewhere. So I was in the process of driving my car (traveling), but at that moment it was "stationary". Another way to look at it is you don't "PARK" your car in a left turn lane while waiting to turn. So "PARKED" can't be the right option, and there is only one other option, "TRAVELING".
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 12:53 PM
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OK, point taken, didn't think about it that way.
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy
You do not need to explain yourself (health wise) to anyone, ever! Not once, not ever! Your health is your business and anyone who asks should be told to shut up! Mind their own business. I've had people 'grill' me and I've been polite (so far), but probably will snap soon! I'm looking forward to the snap!

Furthermore, I am sure you have a clear case of child abuse against this woman. Good luck!
With all due respect but where did you read me asking her about her health issues or "demanding" an explanation of such? I was simply stating that I have had the "pleasure" of dealing with people who shamelessly abuse our legal system by claiming a mental disorder was triggered in minor accidents/incidents in order to seek high amounts of reparation compensation. I did not accuse the OP of doing this I just did not like the way her post came across especially labeling the opposite driver as a "Bad Bad person" seemed absurd. Nothing in the police report states reckless driving nor texting (even though that is obviously tough to prove). Who is to say the person was really texting and therefore recklessly driving?
So once again, I am not grilling anybody about their physical/mental condition. I f you are that much into it, maybe you want to re-read my post!

Finally, I would like to say that I can absolutely understand kitfel. We all love our Crossfires and the last we want is the car to be labeled as totaled or get into an accident as nothing good comes out of accidents no matter how minor they are. This is an online forum and therefore things often times come out differently as in person and words are easily misunderstood. It's what happened here - as she herself already corrected her original post because she said she understands how it could be misunderstood. I'm leaving it at that and if I offended her I'm going to say sorry once again!
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 01:39 PM
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Nick, we're good dude. Rather than get in some pissing match, I actually realized there was some misunderstanding and don't want to be thought of the way I guess I may have come off at first, wasn't taking offense but did feel sort of compelled to correct the impression I gave. Just because for me I do think it's shitty to exaggerate stuff for money. I truly only meant there will be a couple chats with my therapist, some sleeping pills, and whatnot. NOTHING like ZOMG MY PTSD IS BACK GIMME LOTSA MONEY!!! ... I'm not like that at all if you knew me you'd know it's not true lol... A smallish car accident with no major injuries is a blip on the radar compared to real trauma. Thanks for listening to my reasoning and all and giving me the chance to explain a little further without getting into a bunch of details.

Everybody's been through various lifetime sh*t. Sandy is sounding a bit defensive of me, that's sweet too. I get it, and thanks for the support. But yeah all is good, I know I don't have to explain anything to anyone, but sometimes I **want** to clarify something I stated and that's cool too. That's all I did -- I didn't feel obligated

Yes forums are just such a launchpad for potential drama, everyone has to keep heads cool and realize there's always more to the story/person behind the words and without being able to hear a person's tone of voice/body language etc., you never have a complete picture. Back in my younger days when I was a gamer I used to get all caught up in forum crap all the time, but now I usually just grab a bowl of popcorn, or better yet turn of the computer
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 01:43 PM
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re: Texting, according to this book I'm reading about doing insurance claims without a lawyer, if it goes to court you subpoena their phone records. If you suspect texting/surfing (which I do of course) then the lawyers tell the other lawyers to expect that if it goes to court, and so depending on her insurance company's talks with her they probably know what the outcome of that would be. Just an interesting tidbit on the texting business.
 
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Old 08-25-2014 | 11:55 PM
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re: Texting, according to this book I'm reading about doing insurance claims without a lawyer, if it goes to court you subpoena their phone records. If you suspect texting/surfing (which I do of course) then the lawyers tell the other lawyers to expect that if it goes to court, and so depending on her insurance company's talks with her they probably know what the outcome of that would be. Just an interesting tidbit on the texting business.
All is good! We are fine I'm glad you made sense in your reasoning above about everything and you realized that it could be taken the wrong way and made corrections. That was awesome of you and really not even necessary but I sure liked how you didn't get upset or anything.
Moving on...so with the texting thing - that is very interesting information. I also heard similar "tricks" about the phone records but wouldn't it be difficult for the provider to release such information?
Also, technically, what would these records show if I was in the midst of reading and responding to a text message but before I can hit the "sent" button I get into an accident?
Of course I really hope you will at least get your car either fully repaired (if that means no structural damage to the frame/engine) or the opportunity to purchase a new Crossfire for relatively little additional money of your own!
 
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