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Old 05-11-2014 | 07:35 AM
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Hi, last friday i forgot the lights on and my battery was drained, i cant open the doors with the key for some reason so i had to unscrew the thing holding the bonnet in order to take the battery out and recharge it.
Today i went back to put the battery in the car again and the lights went on so i know the battery is charged, but i still cant get into the car because now nothing happens when i click any button on the key, i checked the central locking fuse under the bonnet and its ok.
Any ideas?
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 07:58 AM
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Also the fog lights starts flashing when i connect the battery.
And i tried changing batteries in the key without any result
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pontus1991
Hi, last friday i forgot the lights on and my battery was drained, i cant open the doors with the key for some reason so i had to unscrew the thing holding the bonnet in order to take the battery out and recharge it.
Today i went back to put the battery in the car again and the lights went on so i know the battery is charged, but i still cant get into the car because now nothing happens when i click any button on the key, i checked the central locking fuse under the bonnet and its ok.
Any ideas?
I know you said you used the key, but I have to ask if you actually tried the key in the lock. It has happened that people forgot what a key really was.
If people read both posts then what you said here could be a bit ambiguous.

This is a post I did some time back. Click
(This above was repeated by another member here.)
So there is another problem if the key does not open the lock.
 

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Old 05-11-2014 | 09:32 AM
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I know you said you used the key, but I have to ask if you actually tried the key in the lock. It has happened that people forgot what a key really was.
If people read both posts then what you said here could be a bit ambiguous.
Yes I tried the key in the door, there's no resistance when i try to turn the key and nothing happens
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 09:38 AM
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My first thought as well Dave. Did you actually put the key into the lock and turn it? If you did, the door should have opened. I have never had to deal with the anti theft system on my cars, but taking the bonnet latch apart with the car locked may have triggered a response.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 09:41 AM
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My first thought as well Dave. Did you actually put the key into the lock and turn it? If you did, the door should have opened. I have never had to deal with the anti theft system on my cars, but taking the bonnet latch apart with the car locked may have triggered a response.
I tried the key in the door, several times. I got the tip about the bonnet latch from here:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post591578
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 09:55 AM
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Yes I tried the key in the door, there's no resistance when i try to turn the key and nothing happens
My guess is the unlock mechanism is not attached to the lock cylinder.
Also, when the battery died the coded signal from the fob to the SKREEM was forgotten and the fob needs to be paired with the SKREEM again. When you can get in the car that is.
Your local automobile association will have people that can open your door without a key, or you could ask some gang members hanging on a street corner to do the job for you.

Mine is OK but I think others here should disconnect the fuse (#25) to the security module and see if their key unlocks the drivers door only. Not removing the fuse will trigger the pump to unlock all the doors etc and you will have proved nothing.
 

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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:00 AM
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OK, that seems reasonable. Key should have worked. I assume your latch is put back together and all fuses checked, not just locking system? If you haven't tried already, try disconnecting positive cable and reconnecting after a few minutes. I can't figure a dead battery causing this. I have had both cars with dead batteries over the winter when my maintainers went bad. But, I never lock the cars in the garage.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
OK, that seems reasonable. Key should have worked. I assume your latch is put back together and all fuses checked, not just locking system? If you haven't tried already, try disconnecting positive cable and reconnecting after a few minutes. I can't figure a dead battery causing this. I have had both cars with dead batteries over the winter when my maintainers went bad. But, I never lock the cars in the garage.

Yeah the latch is put back together, i only checked the fuse for the central locking system though (#26 i think it was), thats the only one that i found that has anything to do with the locking system, maybe i missed something?
I tried disconnecting the negative cable for a few minutes and then reconnecting, still didnt work. Does it matter if i disconnect positive or negative? I've always heard that negative should be disconnected first
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:16 AM
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My guess is the unlock mechanism is not attached to the lock cylinder.
Also, when the battery died the coded signal from the fob to the SKREEM was forgotten and the fob needs to be paired with the SKREEM again. When you can get in the car that is.
Your local automobile association will have people that can open your door without a key, or you could ask some gang members hanging on a street corner to do the job for you.

Mine is OK but I think others here should disconnect the fuse (#25) to the security module and see if their key unlocks the drivers door only. Not removing the fuse will trigger the pump to unlock all the doors etc and you will have proved nothing.
I figured it had to be paired with the car again but i hoped that that wasnt the case, we dont have many gang members or shady street corners here in sweden unfortunately hah, is it possible to bend the window abit and get something inside to open the door from the inside you think?
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:27 AM
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Sounds like 180 has the solution. Glad I never lock mine.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:27 AM
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I figured it had to be paired with the car again but i hoped that that wasnt the case, we dont have many gang members or shady street corners here in sweden unfortunately hah, is it possible to bend the window abit and get something inside to open the door from the inside you think?
When the battery is charged then it should be possible to insert a rod or stiff wire and push it onto the lock/unlock button on the console. Or use something that will pull the latch on the opposite door to the window you access. This I think is the method used by locksmiths. A friend had this done when he left his key in the car. The locksmith was in the car in seconds, he pried the glass apart, inserted a wedge and put in the long puller bar, my buddy said it was amazing to see.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:30 AM
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When the battery is charged then it should be possible to insert a rod or stiff wire and push it onto the lock/unlock button on the console. Or use something that will pull the latch on the opposite door to the window you access. This I think is the method used by locksmiths. A friend had this done when he left his key in the car. The locksmith was in the car in seconds, he pried the glass apart, inserted a wedge and put in the long puller bar, my buddy said it was amazing to see.
Cool, hopefully the only locksmith we have in town can do this if i can't. And when i get inside it's possible to pair it with this method?
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ey-save-6.html
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Well, at this point if Dave's solution doesn't work, I would use what we refer here in the states as a monster rod. It is just a heavy straight rod that can be wedged into the window and extended to the unlocking switch on the panel. With power now reconnected, it should activate the unlock once the switch is pushed.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:32 AM
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I guess we are all talking at the same time...lol.....anyway this should do the trick. I have used this method over the years as a cop....but never have had to unlock a XF before...so who knows. Works on other models though.
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:36 AM
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I'll try that if i find something long and hard. I don't dare googling monster rod though, i have a feeling that will show me results I don't want to see lol..
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 10:58 AM
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I'll try that if i find something long and hard. I don't dare googling monster rod though, i have a feeling that will show me results I don't want to see lol..
especially with the long and hard added in. Any #9 or above wire will work. Not sure how you measure the wire size in Sweden, but twice as thick as a coat hanger should work...
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 12:15 PM
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As an aside, I am amazed at the Swedes mastery of the English language. If we had studied Swedish I am sure we would have given up very soon. The first sentence we would have learned is "I'll take a pass on the rotted fish dish". LOL
We cannot be bothered to practice our French in Canada and give it up as soon as we can.

Mastery of another language helps the brain develop and is said to aid in the onset of dementia later in life. My sons wife is also fluent in French and Bulgarian, is very good in Spanish, Italian and some German. I guess her motto is why stop at two or three languages. LOL
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 01:09 PM
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As an aside, I am amazed at the Swedes mastery of the English language. If we had studied Swedish I am sure we would have given up very soon. The first sentence we would have learned is "I'll take a pass on the rotted fish dish". LOL
We cannot be bothered to practice our French in Canada and give it up as soon as we can.

Mastery of another language helps the brain develop and is said to aid in the onset of dementia later in life. My sons wife is also fluent in French and Bulgarian, is very good in Spanish, Italian and some German. I guess her motto is why stop at two or three languages. LOL
Haha thank you, I guess it's because only sweden and norway understands swedish so we have to learn english in order to be understood, I started learning english when i was 7 or 8 because i wanted to be able to play with people online lol.

Just thought I'd show you how it went!
Found a steelwirething made to support bushes in the garden
Damnit, pictures got turned around..




After i got into the car it started up just fine and when i later turned it off the key fob worked perfectly again, weird.. I seem to have screwed up my bonnet latch somehow though, because i can't open the bonnet using the lever.

Funny and typical swedish people, my car was standing on a parking lot next to a trafficked road and at least 300-400 cars passed during the time i was trying to break in, at least 50 cars stopped or slowed down and stared me down but only one guy stopped and asked what I was doing lol

Thanks for the help guys, I think i'll start a career as carthief now
 
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Old 05-11-2014 | 01:19 PM
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OK, I gotta know :
If as you say, you couldn't get into the car, and the trunk was also locked, WHERE DID THE WRENCH COME FROM ?
Do you always carry one around in your pocket ?

Just kidding, and congratulations !!!
I know that you must have been going between home and the car, unless you were using your cell for the forum.
I think I would have used something made of wood or rubber however to prop the window.
Them puppies ain't cheap if you chip or fracture it.

BTW: I Google Map'd your town - that is one beautiful place. No overhead wires, telephone poles etc, and all the buildings / properties look really well kept.
 

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