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Old 10-20-2013 | 12:32 PM
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bluecoupe
haha..smart *** :-))
lets use and keep the forum for info exchange..other than that it is drama that can be seen on TV.
 
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Old 10-20-2013 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecoupe
Thanks guys, I was enjoying the pissing contest....
Yea, seemed like the normal thread here:

1) The new guy gets the help he needs.
2) The regulars spar over what help is given.

Months later...
3) The two regulars meet at a GTG and get along just fine.
 
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Old 10-20-2013 | 01:13 PM
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Have to understand.. winter is coming, and igloo building make some a little testy ...

Meanwhile back on the ranch.. high of 72 and sunshine.. think I may go tan..
 
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Old 10-20-2013 | 01:42 PM
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Have to understand.. winter is coming, and igloo building make some a little testy ...

Meanwhile back on the ranch.. high of 72 and sunshine.. think I may go tan..

Ha Ha Ha.........but at least we don't have to check the tire pressure on the house regularly. !!!
 
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Old 10-20-2013 | 02:23 PM
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Ha Ha Ha.........but at least we don't have to check the tire pressure on the house regularly. !!!
I think that trailer parks attract tornadoes and therefore make other places safer to live.
It's a known fact tornadoes are attracted to high concentrations of aluminum and it's not just the trailers it's the beer cans as well.



Who's ever heard of an igloo being touched by an tornado.
 
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Old 10-20-2013 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sparkiesrt6
ha ha ha.........but at least we don't have to check the tire pressure on the house regularly. !!!
lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 12:11 PM
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Need help again, please. After the radio issue-I now have the problem of a xfire that will not start.
Tell me if there is a thread already (I haven't found yet) that tells me how to troubleshoot and repair this problem(s):
- strong cranking power, smell of gas
- power up to the ignition Coils.
After that, there is no spark to the plugs, no pulse out of the coils.

Who controls that power to them, is it the RCM? If that's not the unit, where do I look next?
As always, thanks for your help
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 12:21 PM
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Fuse 11 in the underhood accessory block supplies the 12v to the coils.
The PCM (PTCM) uses inputs from the Camshaft Position Sensor, Crankshaft Position Sensor, Knock Sensors, Engine
Coolant Temperature Sensor, and MAF Sensor (3.2L engine only) to trigger the Ignition Coils. The PCM is mounted
in the engine compartment within the Control Module Box.

I'd start with the crankshaft sensor, then the camshaft sensor, then the (God forbid ) PTCM.
Thinking about it a bit more, the crank sensor is just a reluctance pickup ( no electronic parts ) whereas the camshaft sensor is a Hall-effect device. Since this all started with a battery jump ( read VOLTAGE SPIKE ), I'd start with the camshaft sensor.

NOTE TO SELF : Don't offer any jumps from the Crossfire .......
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 12:32 PM
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Fuse 11 in the underhood accessory block supplies the 12v to the coils.
The PCM (PTCM) uses inputs from the Camshaft Position Sensor, Crankshaft Position Sensor, Knock Sensors, Engine
Coolant Temperature Sensor, and MAF Sensor (3.2L engine only) to trigger the Ignition Coils. The PCM is mounted
in the engine compartment within the Control Module Box.

I'd start with the crankshaft sensor, then the camshaft sensor, then the (God forbid ) PTCM.
Thinking about it a bit more, the crank sensor is just a reluctance pickup ( no electronic parts ) whereas the camshaft sensor is a Hall-effect device. Since this all started with a battery jump ( read VOLTAGE SPIKE ), I'd start with the camshaft sensor.

NOTE TO SELF : Don't offer any jumps from the Crossfire .......
180 doesn't believe in "coincidence" ..

but I believe if that is oem crank sensor.. it's cheaper and more common of a failure, and changing it out won't hurt- and will eliminate a most likely future issue.
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 12:46 PM
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180 doesn't believe in "coincidence" ..
As MrMiata is a but a humble padawan of 180, I'd take this advice as words from the master Jedi himself.
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
As MrMiata is a but a humble padawan of 180, I'd take this advice as words from the master Jedi himself.
^^^TRANSLATION^^^ Cam shaft sensor would probably be the last thing served up in an electronics BBQ from a jump start mishap..
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
180 doesn't believe in "coincidence" ..

but I believe if that is oem crank sensor.. it's cheaper and more common of a failure, and changing it out won't hurt- and will eliminate a most likely future issue.

If it is replaced it should be a BOSCH and do not forget it. Replacing it with anything else will lead to an even earlier failure.
The so called OEM sensor is a Bosch so if it works keep it.
In this case I would change it and see if it will allow the car to start. Broken sensor = no sparks.
Does the fuel pump work? Can you hear it?
On the Crossfire the CPS seems to go out intermittently when it gets hot. All we know about this case is the car will not start. Full story required I think.

 

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Old 10-24-2013 | 05:32 PM
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Thanks to all, lots of good info. It lead me to the fuse panel to start with fuse number 11, which was good and that sucked the energy out of me.
I decided to check out some of the other fuses, turns out #10 - 5 amp, speed control was blown. It was the "one" the car started right up and runs fine, wanted to check my find and pulled # 10 fuse and the car wouldn't start, re-installed the fuse and it started again. The "fix"...scratching my head on that one.
Again thanks for leading me there.
And there a new one for the "Book of Fixes"
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 05:43 PM
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Isn't that ala-xfire's "anti theft" fuse?

Brings the question why did it pop..
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire

NOTE TO SELF : Don't offer any jumps from the Crossfire .......
Wrong thread.
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 06:49 PM
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Mrmiata

Right, ala_xfire info lead me to the fuses and fuse #11, i just pulled #10 on a whim next to #11. And found #10 blown (#10 on my fuse list is speed control), if ala-xfire said that in one of his post I missed it or I saw it and my whim wasn't a whim. Anyways, I am happy to get my ride back and not sharing the wife's car with her and son (he fixed his yesterday with a new Cam sensor) and thanks for inputs on that fix.
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 07:06 PM
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Mrmiata

Right, ala_xfire info lead me to the fuses and fuse #11, i just pulled #10 on a whim next to #11. And found #10 blown (#10 on my fuse list is speed control), if ala-xfire said that in one of his post I missed it or I saw it and my whim wasn't a whim. Anyways, I am happy to get my ride back and not sharing the wife's car with her and son (he fixed his yesterday with a new Cam sensor) and thanks for inputs on that fix.
The problem I had was with a blown fuse #9, not #10.
From my post :
Sorry, didn't close this thread out.
It was a blown fuse #9 in the under hood fuse block causing all the problems.
F9 supplies 12v on pin 75 to the BCM, as well as voltage for the dome and trunk lights.

The dome lights and the trunk light not working is what led me to F9.
And, yes, I did mention F11 above, as it supplies the power for the coil packs ......
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 07:11 PM
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Right, I hadn't forgot about what caused the blown fuse-need to trace that out. I don't want another sudden shutdown in the middle of 4 lane highway. Thanks for the reminder, that takes me back to the radio replacement and that is where I first found the speed control line (I may have use that line as accessories to new radio, because I shorted accessories line and couldn't trace it back to fix it). It allows the radio volume to change (+ or -) based on speed. DUH... I know most of you that, but that was epiphany to me and my ride back on the road.
 
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Old 10-24-2013 | 07:21 PM
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Glad to be of help.
BTW, any 'newbie' that uses the word 'epiphany' intelligently in a sentence is more than welcome on the forum.
( 180 and mrmiata will second that )
 
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Old 10-25-2013 | 08:52 PM
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Thank you all for your contributions and you’re excepting me into the forum. You have provided me with a lot of info to troubleshoot and repair my problems – SAVING ME BIG BUCKS $$$.
I found lots of technical documentation to refer to for other lesser problems I still have to explore. Glad I found this site..
 



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