Are crossfires crap? Honestly
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
Crap? I suppose it depends on your perspective, but what the OP is referring to are a slew of poorly maintained cars that happen to be crossfires. A major contributing factor to this are people like myself who took their cars to the dealer to get fixed and realized, too late in my case, that the dealer is the wrong place to go for these cars. I eventually ended up selling my car because of the dealer's complete disregard for my car. My crossfire used to be a nice vehicle but when I got rid of it, I was happy to move on.
Contrary to popular opinion, anyone who advertises their car as dealer maintained probably has a current or near future basket case on their hands.
Contrary to popular opinion, anyone who advertises their car as dealer maintained probably has a current or near future basket case on their hands.
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
Crap? I suppose it depends on your perspective, but what the OP is referring to are a slew of poorly maintained cars that happen to be crossfires. A major contributing factor to this are people like myself who took their cars to the dealer to get fixed and realized, too late in my case, that the dealer is the wrong place to go for these cars. I eventually ended up selling my car because of the dealer's complete disregard for my car. My crossfire used to be a nice vehicle but when I got rid of it, I was happy to move on.
Contrary to popular opinion, anyone who advertises their car as dealer maintained probably has a current or near future basket case on their hands.
Contrary to popular opinion, anyone who advertises their car as dealer maintained probably has a current or near future basket case on their hands.
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
I've had mine since 2005. I'm the second owner, first was a Chrysler Exec. I still turn and look at mine as I walk away and still get a good feeling knowing that she's mine.
I just got back from a run to the Bay Area. I was up in Mill Valley and passed many Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lamborghini's on the street. But who got the looks from the pedestrians....that's right my little black beauty. Several residents commented on the "nice car". So do I have an opinion on whether it's CRAP. Yes I do and CRAP is not how i refer to the most reliable vehicle I've ever had. And being a hot rod child of the '60s, having run many a good 1/4 mile run on some great cars and owned a few classics with some guts, the Crossfire is not a slug or CRAP by any means.
Xfirepop
I just got back from a run to the Bay Area. I was up in Mill Valley and passed many Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lamborghini's on the street. But who got the looks from the pedestrians....that's right my little black beauty. Several residents commented on the "nice car". So do I have an opinion on whether it's CRAP. Yes I do and CRAP is not how i refer to the most reliable vehicle I've ever had. And being a hot rod child of the '60s, having run many a good 1/4 mile run on some great cars and owned a few classics with some guts, the Crossfire is not a slug or CRAP by any means.
Xfirepop
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
Horror stories scare me , rcm failure scares me , sticky ignition key scares me , cps.failure scares me , anything that can cause the car to not run and ruin a perfectly Good day scares me ...but then again if I wanted a car that is a 100% reliable daily driver Id just get a Toyota and blend in with everyone and not have a quick Good looking car , no thanks
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
I have spent my entire life with cars. I worked on them for 30 yrs and then worked with consumers resolving complaints against their mechanics for 21 yrs. There is no perfect car, not new, not used, not "certified used". I can get into a car that has problems and it'll run perfectly, but my daughter can get into a perfectly running car and it'll die in 10 miles, but not due to anything she did. There is always the human element. Trying to get the perfect car is at best a total "CRAP" shoot. My advice? Pick car based on the looks and own up to the fact that mechanically there will be problems. Why do dealerships offer warranties on brand new cars? Yup they break. Find a good technician or learn how to work on cars. Believe me the other option of riding the bus for life will suck. I've worked on and resolved complaints on all makes of cars from Maseratis to Yugos so the statistical sample is pretty large.
This is what I tell friends and family that come to me and ask me about buying cars. Love the look and feel. The mechanical working of the car cannot be guaranteed to be free of defects or failure.
From a technicians point of view, this forum is a gold mine. The people here are genuinely concerned with helping each other and the advice on how to do things is dead on and very clear. If not, do not hesitate to ask for clarification or help.
Just my dos centavos.
Xfirepop
This is what I tell friends and family that come to me and ask me about buying cars. Love the look and feel. The mechanical working of the car cannot be guaranteed to be free of defects or failure.
From a technicians point of view, this forum is a gold mine. The people here are genuinely concerned with helping each other and the advice on how to do things is dead on and very clear. If not, do not hesitate to ask for clarification or help.
Just my dos centavos.
Xfirepop
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
I have spent my entire life with cars. I worked on them for 30 yrs and then worked with consumers resolving complaints against their mechanics for 21 yrs. There is no perfect car, not new, not used, not "certified used". I can get into a car that has problems and it'll run perfectly, but my daughter can get into a perfectly running car and it'll die in 10 miles, but not due to anything she did. There is always the human element. Trying to get the perfect car is at best a total "CRAP" shoot. My advice? Pick car based on the looks and own up to the fact that mechanically there will be problems. Why do dealerships offer warranties on brand new cars? Yup they break. Find a good technician or learn how to work on cars. Believe me the other option of riding the bus for life will suck. I've worked on and resolved complaints on all makes of cars from Maseratis to Yugos so the statistical sample is pretty large.
This is what I tell friends and family that come to me and ask me about buying cars. Love the look and feel. The mechanical working of the car cannot be guaranteed to be free of defects or failure.
From a technicians point of view, this forum is a gold mine. The people here are genuinely concerned with helping each other and the advice on how to do things is dead on and very clear. If not, do not hesitate to ask for clarification or help.
Just my dos centavos.
Xfirepop
This is what I tell friends and family that come to me and ask me about buying cars. Love the look and feel. The mechanical working of the car cannot be guaranteed to be free of defects or failure.
From a technicians point of view, this forum is a gold mine. The people here are genuinely concerned with helping each other and the advice on how to do things is dead on and very clear. If not, do not hesitate to ask for clarification or help.
Just my dos centavos.
Xfirepop
Amen! This forum is the best mechanic for our cars that is around!
Re: Are crossfires crap? Honestly
Ok, here's my take on the situation, keeping in mind that I'm a relative Newbie to both the Crossfire and this forum (I got my license plates today)
There are dependable cars, then there are sports cars with a lot of new technology, new ways to put systems together and tight spaces to fit everything in. sometimes reliability is sacraficed in some areas to gain speed and horsepower.
I chose a Crossfire for several reasons. It was in my price range, and I could finance it fairly cheap. It was my car. My Sports Car. After 8 years with 2 other owners, it had a few problem (Still does) but part of the fun of owning a car like this is tinkering with it, and making it your own, and yea.. even fixing the odd problem or six that may pop up. I rode in (the guy wouldn't let me drive it) a 10 or 11 year old Corvette with 80K on it, and the guy assured me that this noise was nothing, or that noise was normal, and he wanted WAY too much money for that many problems... now I'm not suggesting that Corvettes are junk... but even a Ferrari if not taken care of is going to leak, and rattle and perhaps leave you stranded along side the road... The Crossfire has its share of problems, I'll grant you, but for me, there isn't anything there that can't be fixed and improved on, and THAT is part of the joy of owning a sports car...
As always, JMHO
There are dependable cars, then there are sports cars with a lot of new technology, new ways to put systems together and tight spaces to fit everything in. sometimes reliability is sacraficed in some areas to gain speed and horsepower.
I chose a Crossfire for several reasons. It was in my price range, and I could finance it fairly cheap. It was my car. My Sports Car. After 8 years with 2 other owners, it had a few problem (Still does) but part of the fun of owning a car like this is tinkering with it, and making it your own, and yea.. even fixing the odd problem or six that may pop up. I rode in (the guy wouldn't let me drive it) a 10 or 11 year old Corvette with 80K on it, and the guy assured me that this noise was nothing, or that noise was normal, and he wanted WAY too much money for that many problems... now I'm not suggesting that Corvettes are junk... but even a Ferrari if not taken care of is going to leak, and rattle and perhaps leave you stranded along side the road... The Crossfire has its share of problems, I'll grant you, but for me, there isn't anything there that can't be fixed and improved on, and THAT is part of the joy of owning a sports car...
As always, JMHO
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