Now... Are you test driving crossfires or bentleys?

 

Damn! That's a helluva deal, now I feel jipped

 

Are XF's Crap....
Mmmm NOPE....
The body build is exellent...
The mechanics are proven Mercedes for 20 years...
They will do some 300,000 miles on an engine and box...
The interior.... seats dash n doors is exellent.... however, the centre console is a little tacky....
But for £20,000 more for the same year, you can buy a common all garden Porsche just to get a better centre console.....
Personally, i recon 20k for a centre console is a little steep ?

For the body styling, sheer performance and for £89 i had mine unlimited and can get ... and have done over 160mph in her.....

I think these machines are truly fantastic for the price and the small running costs to be able to own and drive a true "supercar"

my girlfriend says, my XF is the other-woman in my life lol..... And shes jealous of the car... ha ha

so, if you want to know if what youre buying is good or not....
Find some on here who lives near you who has a good knowledge of these machines to test drive one for you, and they will fi d anything wrong with it if theres anything to find....

Hope you find one and fall in love with it.... but please understand that us here on this forum are not a load of sad gits all raving about some piece of crap that should have been scrapped as they rolled off the production line....
These machines are truly amaizing, and having owned 911's and wizzy Audi's, Cosworths, Maserati's in years past..... i can honestly say that there isnt a BMW or a Porsche that will out corner a standard XF, and a standard but lightly modded XF will outrun most of the above in a straight line.
Get an SRT and pump some nitro-Meth thru it... if youre tired of living.... and you will rule the roads..... theae machines can easily be made to exceed 175 mph.....

The question again..... are they crap ????? .... I think not !
Hope you find a nice one.
Grant B

 

I guess the good news from this thread is that prices, even for POS, seem to be rising. I read this forum for years with everyone lamenting their car was losing value. I would also agree that a 7-8 year old car with 2-3 owners may be high mileage and low care. Either keep looking or raise the ante a few thousand. Mechanically these are solid cars -- I have 40k on my roadster and just under 20k on the SRT6 and they are almost perfect (absolutely smooth after clay barring and waxing). I have done no maintenance in three years other than annual oil change and rotating tires. My son's 2007 has also been problem free over three years. I bought the SRT6 and his car in the Chicago area. None of mine are for sale. I intend to be making these same statements in 10-15 years.

 

Newbie here. I paid just over 8K for my 96K limited coupe. An AZ car garage kept and the (black) paint is really nice. Yes there are a few issues - some bulbs, etc. A brake rotor (and pads) in the near future. These are high-perfomance cars and require maintenance. Be prepared to buy some tools and learn DIY. The engines with proper maint will go a couple hundred thousand miles. The stick 6spd trans is really heavy duty, and will outlive the car.

My limited coupe will come off an on-ramp to the freeway at over 100mph (if I don't watch it, grin) and still average 25mpg.

 

As mentioned above....all you have to do is ask, and any of us will be glad to go test drive a car for you and give you our honest opinion. My second car was checked out by a friend on here, and he got a $100 bill from the dealer for his trouble. Be glad to help. There 80K of these made in the non SRT catagory, so there are going to be daily drivers that were leased and never taken care of. The dealers pick them up cheap at auction and try to make a lot of money on them in that price range. You will have to save a few more bucks to get into the one owners catagory.

 

One thing I did that I recommend you do was look up the Car Fax they had, then called the dealerships the car was serviced at and asked for a print-out/email of the service records. Simple as that!

Found out I don't need to change my coolant anytime soon, lol.

 

I thought SRT's were included in the 83,005 number of XFs made! I thought it was all models?

 

The last Vin # was something like 76,047.....& I'm pretty sure that includes the SRT6s.

 

Thought I had posted this link on my way out the door yesterday morning.. but I don't see it. Overlook me if I did, but this looks to be a pretty sweet deal...

2004 Chrysler Crossfire 49K M **Price Reduced** Black Great Condition

 

Hi there! I live in St. Louis, MO myself and I *just* bought a Crossfire SRT-6 convertible. I had to drive up to the Chicago area to get this one and did a LOT of searching around first.

Have you looked at the one **** Dean Subaru has for sale out in the Ballwin, MO area? They've got an SRT-6 Coupe for sale, but when I tried to go see it in person, it wasn't available yet because they were still doing service/prep work on it to get it ready for resale. (I asked them what was specifically being fixed on it, and their service manager told me it needed a new idler pulley -- which would be a fairly typical repair for a Crossfire.) The CarFax on that one indicated it had been in an accident before, but from what I'm told, it was a relatively minor front-end collision that basically just required a new bumper -- and was fixed to where you'd never know it happened.

Of course, if you're really putting a hard $12K upper limit on the price of what you're after? Yeah, I think you can expect to see problems. The Crossfire is a great little car, but it's also the type of vehicle I'd describe has "having character". That is, they're quirky in a number of ways ... from odd things like a factory stereo with GPS navigation using just a 1-line LCD to little things that break/fail and cause seemingly major issues.

From all the Crossfires I looked at, I saw something similar to what you did. I think the entry price for one in truly good shape with low to moderate mileage is more like $14-16K. The ones going for less than that have high mileage and/or paint issues and/or mechanical wear and tear.

IMO though, you could still do pretty well buying one of these for around $10K and then working on it as a project car for a while, if you're the type to do it. I mean, invest $1-2K to get all the paint redone at a reputable body shop and voila - exterior is mint condition again. Issues like car stalling while on the highway? Read the forums and you'll see it's often as simple a fix as pulling out a control board and re-soldering old/bad solder joints and dropping it back in.

 

You seem to have some misplaced faith in dealers. Dealers are not out to sell you a near perfect car at a good price - their goal is only to make a profit, and nothing more. You will likely pay more for a vehicle at a dealer, and they will only do whatever they need to do to a used vehicle to be able to sell it (sometimes doing some very cheap things to hide a problem, rather than fix it).

I suggest you start looking at private parties.

 

There are good cars at the dealers but their "asking" prices are usually way high.
You can get some of them to slash the price but be ready to fly out to where ever the car is.
I wouldn't buy one sight unseen.

 

You may have to if the right car comes along. I did and was rewarded with a gem.

 

stop going to all the cut rate dealerships. You will hear far to many people on this site say that the going rate for these cars are about $5k less than they should be. I would not sell my 2004 Coup for less than $16k and would need well over $20k for my 2007 roadster.
If you want cheap, look some where else.

 

Silly of me to say, probably, but the OP could have used any marque/model in that question, 'Are all ______ crap?' Not a criticism, but an observation...

 

Yeah.... this is really true. Some of the people on the site who quote those low prices are just bragging about especially good deals they got -- and usually only when they haggled with an individual they bought it from directly, paying in full with cash.

In my own situation, I knew I didn't have the money to pay for one of these cars straight out, and I didn't want to own a total of 3 vehicles anyway. So my only option was looking for one at a dealer and trading in my Jeep. I managed to find a Crossfire that the dealer was originally asking around $22K for, but had JUST dropped the asking price to under $17K. IMO, I got a good deal because this was an SRT-6 convertible w/44K miles on it. But no, it didn't have flawless paint. (Besides some small scrapes on the rear bumper, it has a really odd ring shaped series of scrapes on the top, just to the right of the trunk lid. Looks like maybe a magnetic-mount CB antenna was there for a while and scraped it up...)

 

Have some issues with the paint on my car, too, but I got it for $10K with just over 100K miles on it. The vast majority of the car was flawless; used, yes, but not abused...

 

No problem with Crossfires. You have a problem. You want a cream puff at a beater price. Step up to the
plate and pay the price. I have that cream puff Aero Blue Roadster I might part with at 16.9k.

Carmax has 25 CFs. 12 to 20k. I am going to guess that the 20k car is nicer than the 12K.

 

Here's what I'm talkin about : https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post670142


Let the negotiations begin !