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Old 04-12-2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeR
Doc, you can get a whole set of security bits from your local Chinese store(Harbor Freight)....
And that is my favorite Chinese Tool Store.....

Well, what do you think....alarm problems and all, Mike? Should just throw that sucker away right now...always did hate alarm calls when I was still on the streets...more hastle than they are worth...
 
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Old 04-12-2011 | 11:32 AM
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SKREEM module is behind the instrument cluster





SKREEM
1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.


2. Remove the instrument cluster.
Refer to Page 8J-83.


3. Disconnect the 2-pin CAN bus harness connector (1) from
the SKREEM.
4. Disconnect the 2-pin harness connector for the sentry key
antenna ring.
5. Disconnect the 18-pin harness connector (1) from the
SKREEM.
6. Press the retaining tabs apart.

7. Remove the SKREEM from the base plate.


If my siren was giving me problems I would disconnect it and take it out and then decide if I really needed the bloody thing or not.
I have not studied the manual on this subject but most of these systems have a diagnosis procedure. Most of these consist of the use of a multimeter, the results of the tests determine if the part is OK or f'd up.
Now we cannot expect your local Crossfire trained mechanic do this as he will make more money throwing new parts at your car until it is fixed or he shrugs and walks away.
Stealerships know that you expect to be ripped off when you put yourself at their mercy, so they oblige you and do as you expect, they rip you off.
Another dissatisfied customer who got what he expected.



 

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Old 04-12-2011 | 11:36 AM
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I am with the group leaning towards the SKREEM module at the likely cause.... if you can pull a fuse and disable it, as mentioned, I would do that and see what happens. If it shuts off and everything else works okay, find a new module and replace it... MMZ_Timelord's write up on how to change the dash light color should get you access to the SKREEM module....
According to the service manual, page 8Q-57, " Remove the instrument cluster to gain access to
the SKREEM module. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - REMOVAL)."

The Service Manual also shows the fuse for the SKREEM module is in underhood fuse block, 15A, #35.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-pictures.html

Thanks to MMZ this may be much easier than previously thought....
 
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Old 04-12-2011 | 01:48 PM
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I have no alarm issues (knock on wood), but I'm always in the learning mode.

(That's why I actively read this forum).

Assuming you disconnect and remove the Siren Module, to stop annoying your neighbors, and yank the fuse 15A, this should disable the system.

You will be alarm-less, but none of the numerious Alarm sensors should trigger the system, and lock you out from starting the car in a normal fashion.

Would the above hold true and be a fair statement...???

Thanx...
 

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Old 04-12-2011 | 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Uh Oh. WTF is going here. The alarm won't turn off!

Originally Posted by Kodebuster
I have no alarm issues (knock on wood), but I'm always in the learning mode.

(That's why I actively read this forum).

Assuming you disconnect and remove the Siren Module, to stop annoying your neighbors, and yank the fuse 15A, this should disable the system.

You will be alarm-less, but none of the numerious Alarm sensors should trigger the system, and lock you out from starting the car in a normal fashion.

Would the above hold true and be a fair statement...???

Thanx...
I think we are thinking alike here. Disarm it, before it disarms us?
 
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Old 04-25-2011 | 03:38 PM
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hey MAYAman,

Have you been able to fix your alarm problem? I have been having the same problem with my alarm, and I'm sure you could empathize with my frustration.
 
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Old 06-15-2011 | 01:53 AM
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Same problem here, with the alarm going on randomly at odd moments. Replaced the battery a few days ago as a shot in the dark, and no difference. Was under warranty, and it died on me over the winter while stored, so not a bad idea to do that anyways. So definitely not a battery issue.

Issue started after a pretty heavy duty wash a couple of weeks ago. My Radio Shack alarm thingie stopped beeping when I got home from the wash. Disconnected it, thought the beeper had just worn out. Short alarm chirps started the next day. Then the problem stopped for a week or so. Figured I'd gotten something wet and it dried out. Now it's happening again. Went off tonight driving home from a movie on the 401 here in Ontario. Lots of fun there, as I couldn't get off the road for about five miles. I can shut the alarm off with the fob, at least.

Anyhow, what's the general way to diagnose this? I'm not going anywhere near a dealership unless I absolutely have to. I've got a local mechanic who's good and reliable and cheap, but has no experience with Crossfires. Would like to give him some tips before I bring it in.

1. Replace batteries in key fob to see if that's sending weird signals? Never done this since I bought the car. 05 Roadster Ltd. I've had for about 2.5 years now, just summer driving. I'll do that before I do anything else.

2. Have voltages checked with multimeter?

3. Replace alarm siren under hood?

4. Replace SKREEM module? Shoot self due to insane cost of doing so at dealership?

Any advice here? I'm kind of lost between how to tell if the problem is the alarm siren and the SKREEM thingie, if I get to that point, as I imagine it's one of those.
 
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Old 06-19-2011 | 11:39 AM
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Seems quite a few are having this problem. My '04 started yesterday. I have installed a Viper 5900 and had the OEM bypassed somehow. Some notes, my key fob worked up until yesterday, lock/unlock etc. however if my Viper was still armed of course it would go off. That being said I walked out to my car yesterday to unlock it with my Viper and the Viper acknowledged the unlock by chirping yet my locks didn't move nor could I hear my trunk unlock like I'm used to. So I manually open it with my key in door, and OMG the siren. Obviously the OEM from under the passenger side of the hood 'Skream"ing at me. I'm going to try pulling fuse #35 today and see if it totally disable it. Otherwise while that is in "alert" mode having gone off, my tow/axle button beside my door unlock on the console blinks and when I turn the car to start, it only turns on, not over. I know I have a kill switch on my Viper, I've tried even setting it to Valet mode so it will not will not affect my diagnosing. Whats weird is after my OEM alarm goes off(meaning after its shutup and I reopen the door) there is a relay or something under my dash the kicks on and off at the rate of which my lights flash when I arm my system, but for 1-2 minutes. Making a slight clicking noise as you would assume. I'll post some feed back after I look at it today. BTW we need an iPhone/Android app for this site. lol

Malcolm
 
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Old 06-19-2011 | 01:17 PM
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That relay is the sentry relay located in the fusebox under the second cover. It's what makes the blinkers flash when locking/unlocking. There are two contact points in this relay , one for right side and one for left side blinkers. One point on my relay was slightly bent causing only one side of the blinkers to blink. Opened up the relay, bent it back and now both sides blinker works when locking and unlocking. I don't think it has any other function.
 
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Old 06-19-2011 | 07:54 PM
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And to my surprise, only after disconnecting the battery prior to leaving it at work yesterday, I come back to it today and everything works as though nothing ever happened. I disconnected it yesterday thinking MAYEB the OEM system was not backed up by a rechargeable. Only to find out the siren just cycled over and over until I reconnected the battery. Closed it up, physically locked it and left. Today, my Viper 5900 operated the locks, chirps, and lights like normal. So... what sort of preventative maintenance would you think is necessary or, perhaps for next time is there a sure way to shut it up and get it started?

PS. I did replace the batteries in both my viper remote and oem remote after the first incident yesterday with no luck in finding a solution yesterday. I was in the parking lot for about 30 minutes before leaving it overnight. Weird.

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Old 06-19-2011 | 08:14 PM
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I have not had to tear into mine yet, but do plan on it....I believe corrosion, or even water is the problem...just have to start with the alarm connections, most obvious, then if all else fails, go to the skreen module...behind the instrument cluster...
 
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Old 06-20-2011 | 03:20 PM
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Problem is still happening occasionally here. Will get goofy for a day or so. Then not a peep for a week or more. Argh. Annoying problem. Trying to get into my local mechanic this week, give him the list of possible issues. He knows very little about Xfires, but hoping he can run diagnostics. He's a really car nut, loves to research stuff, so he may just have a nice project here...ugh.

Anyhow, is it at all possible that the big block fuse under the hood needs to be replaced? The problem started for me after a really thorough wash. The Radio Shack buzzer stopped working immediately after this, so I disconnected it from that fuse. Screwed around with it, redid connections, etc. Probably pulled that fuse and put it back in a dozen times.

Then the alarm started going off randomly an hour or so later. Thoughts on that? Did I screw something up by pulling that fuse like that?

Also found some partially frayed wires where plastic is down to wire in that fuse compartment yesterday. Going to tape those up, see if that helps at all.
 
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Old 06-20-2011 | 03:22 PM
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Has anyone got a handy list of the alarm connections to check? I've seen the post about the trunk and water, but it would be great to have a list I could use to check this stuff out and rule everything out.
 
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Old 06-21-2011 | 09:16 AM
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The same thing happened to me about 6 months ago!
I have a 2004. The alarm went off randomly like twice a day for a week! Totally sucked.

So, I took the fuse associated with it, only
to find out it also diasabled my ability to lock the car (omg,duh!).

I Put the fuse back in a week later and it never happened again.

Weird. Didn't replace anything and was told I had a good battery.

Goodluck!
 
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Old 06-27-2011 | 01:18 AM
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Going through this same problem right now! I'm thinking at this point its either the Siren gone bad or the Skreem Module. I'm leaning towards the Siren but I need more feedback before I start buying these parts as it sure can add up! I JUST replaced my battery with a brand new one ( from the OEM factory one ) today, had a bunch of corrosion lately on the negative battery post, cleaned it off every few weeks, then all this random alarm siren going off crazy at random, interior lights flickering, locks unlocking on their own, I finally decided to go ahead and have my battery checked out, they told me that it was time for a replacement so I had it replaced ( earlier this evening!! ) and NOTHING changed anything except my car cranks over a little bit faster now ( even though it always cranked over great ) but none the less I know I have a brand new spankin' battery.

So I need to figure out what I gotta do to stop this siren going nuts. I did read about taking a fuse out, only thing is that I don't know if there are different fuse boxes to look out for than standard Xfires as I have the SRT-6 and it appears to be different fuses than another picture I've seen someone post about how to take it out.

Any tips or advise would be appreciated!!

Here is my thread, I just made it:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...f-driving.html
 
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Old 04-12-2014 | 01:32 AM
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Alarm going off on its own! Interior light flickers / unlocking randomly if driving!!
Still trying to find cricket on crack. My siren has been weak for years no on my 04. I kind of liked not having the noise, but it seems to have progressed leaving me stranded at work yesterday. Yesterday the fob wouldn't open the car. Opened with the key and the alarm lights started. It didn't stop with the fob or inserting the key. When it stopped I started the car but it quickly died. Then it would not turn the starter at all. Saw in another post to remove fuse #9 to disable the domelight, horn and alarm. The light went off, but the horn and the alarm both still worked. Replaced the fob batteries, no help. Had no tools at work so I called a tow truck. He tried to jump it to no avail. At home I found a post and decided t follow the suggestion to take the 10mm to the negative and disconnected and reconnected the battery. I could not start now since the battery was low. Put on the charger for a few minutes and it started. I think removing the power is the only way to turn of the alarm as I see the dash light has stopped flashing. Drove 38 mi to work where it restarted fine. Did not lock the car. 10 hours later it started and drove home fine. I am going to try replacing the siren next. So glad all of you are there to help figure out these issues. The local dealer quoted $8-900 to replace the SKREEM but it seems the siren is the problem from what I have read here in the forum. allmoparparts.com/oemparts/5124443AB has it for $144 plus shipping. I'll call around town tomorrow and see if someone can get it sooner of without shipping costs. We'll see.IF the doors work with thsiren disconnected, I'll stop there
 
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