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Old 02-24-2011 | 10:44 AM
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anyone had this done lately ? Ive seen some older post ! I was wondering if Jose from speedinnovations is still around ? What other places are doing this where you can send in your ECU & have them program it for you ! Anyone ???
 
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Old 02-24-2011 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Mahoney
anyone had this done lately ? Ive seen some older post ! I was wondering if Jose from speedinnovations is still around ? What other places are doing this where you can send in your ECU & have them program it for you ! Anyone ???
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Old 02-28-2011 | 03:07 PM
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Does anyone own an interface that can be shipped? I need to reprogram my airbags. I am very knowledgeable about car diagnostics/electronics but have no access to that proprietary crap Chrysler has, they want stupid amounts of money for something I can do in 2 minutes with the tool in hand.
 
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Old 03-02-2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fjord
Does anyone own an interface that can be shipped? I need to reprogram my airbags. I am very knowledgeable about car diagnostics/electronics but have no access to that proprietary crap Chrysler has, they want stupid amounts of money for something I can do in 2 minutes with the tool in hand.
You would need a DAS/Xentry system. These are very hard to construct - it's possible, using shady knowledge from the Internet, to create the software side (you'll need to be good with computers and Windows as it involves some partitioning insanity), and even to enable Developer Mode in the software (which will let you do other cool tricks, like reprogramming ECUs to new VINs), but the software is married to a multiplexer/dongle setup that is very hard to find at a reasonable price.

I would just get someone (a Mercedes shop) who owns one to do it, if your need for reprogramming is legitimate - a multiplexer will cost you a few hundred bucks at the least.

(Sorry for hijacking this thread to answer this question - I just wanted to clarify that reprogramming airbags isn't a walk in the park and he should probably just get someone else to do it for him).
 
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Old 03-02-2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bri3d
You would need a DAS/Xentry system. These are very hard to construct - it's possible, using shady knowledge from the Internet, to create the software side (you'll need to be good with computers and Windows as it involves some partitioning insanity), and even to enable Developer Mode in the software (which will let you do other cool tricks, like reprogramming ECUs to new VINs), but the software is married to a multiplexer/dongle setup that is very hard to find at a reasonable price.

I would just get someone (a Mercedes shop) who owns one to do it, if your need for reprogramming is legitimate - a multiplexer will cost you a few hundred bucks at the least.

(Sorry for hijacking this thread to answer this question - I just wanted to clarify that reprogramming airbags isn't a walk in the park and he should probably just get someone else to do it for him).
Hmm, very interesting. Are you saying I can use Mercedes diagnostic tools to diagnose airbag problems? I was left with the impression that only the proprietary orange PCMCIA card was capable of working with Crossfires:



which only works with:




I used to own an Audi and with a $20 cable and two years of online research I was capable of programming new keys, mate clusters/radios/ecus, correct mileage......etc. I just want to know what other options do I have besides the DRBIII with the orange card.
 
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Old 03-02-2011 | 06:09 PM
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I had a tune from Jose at speedinnovations, it was done four or five years ago and I really liked it but just a month ago I had Jerry at Eurocharged re-tune mine and I like it better! Call him !
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Old 03-02-2011 | 06:18 PM
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DRB III with the Crossfire and Sprinter cards is a weird package DaimlerChrysler created to allow "Chrysler Dealerships" to work with the Crossfire and Sprinter, which are really Mercedes cars (and hence fully supported by DAS). While I've never worked with DRB III, it's my understanding DAS is substantially more fully-featured, especially in developer mode.

DAS will definitely work with a Crossfire - under the covers, including the ECU and electronics, it's just an R170 SLK-class. That's how the Mercedes engine swaps are done without needing to hack the ECU: using DAS in developer mode.

As far as I know the only people who know how to do anything to the Crossfire with a $20 cable (Galletto) are Eurocharged, and that's because they've disassembled the raw ECU dumps so they can just modify the flashes and reflash, rather than sending the ECU configuration commands DAS-style (and hence they can do more than DAS in some respects, like editing fuel mappings, and less in others, like resynchronizing VINs and keys). To the best of my knowledge the configuration protocol DAS uses is encrypted and has not been reverse-engineered.
 

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Old 03-02-2011 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bri3d
DRB III with the Crossfire and Sprinter cards is a weird package DaimlerChrysler created to allow "Chrysler Dealerships" to work with the Crossfire and Sprinter, which are really Mercedes cars (and hence fully supported by DAS). While I've never worked with DRB III, it's my understanding DAS is substantially more fully-featured, especially in developer mode.

DAS will definitely work with a Crossfire - under the covers, including the ECU and electronics, it's just an R170 SLK-class. That's how the Mercedes engine swaps are done without needing to hack the ECU: using DAS in developer mode.

As far as I know the only people who know how to do anything to the Crossfire with a $20 cable (Galletto) are Eurocharged, and that's because they've disassembled the raw ECU dumps so they can just modify the flashes and reflash, rather than sending the ECU configuration commands DAS-style (and hence they can do more than DAS in some respects, like editing fuel mappings, and less in others, like resynchronizing VINs and keys). To the best of my knowledge the configuration protocol DAS uses is encrypted and has not been reverse-engineered.
While a lot of the modules are the same between the Crossfire and the SLK there are a few, such as the SRS system, that are not and will require the use of a DRB-III.
 
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