Not being very familiar with all that is Mercedes. Just out of curiosity, is there any NA/55 applications that is offered with a "manual" transmission?
I'm not asking for myself, but I believe Rudy and Paul prefer working their magic only on automatics.
If the n/a 55 V8 was available with a 6 spd. it might be a viable option for those of us who own manual transmission cars.

 

He is asking for me Thanks Mike

 

I have never seen a manual used with any M113 V8's in the US but maybe Europe? I honestly believe that the Crossfire's six speed could be used. Some just needs to compare the flex plate (flywheel) from a V8 with the Flywheel from a manual. Possible differences are the bolt pattern and the balance factor. It might be possible to modify the manual flywheel or have one made. There are race shops than can build a flywheel and it is not an astronomical price. Other possbile considerations is that there may be ECU issues, but i think it would work. If my car had been a manual, I can guarantee you that I would have a V8 6 speed Crossfire today.

 

Sounds like we'd be getting dangerously close to "HDDP" territory then, and I think that would scare many off.
I sometimes wonder if Derek never really got his "Race Fire" totally sorted out, and that's why he went over to the "Dark (Bowtie) Side".

My pleasure John...great minds think alike.

 

HDDP went complete stand alone which made his car a race only car. He went with a Motec computer. Knowing what I do now I don't believe what he did was nessessary but at the time we didn't know how to recode ECU's to different cars.

 

Lantana, You make the whole thing sound very doable. Maybe this might get some more people on board if Paul and Rudy can crack the code so manual owners can keep their 6 speeds.
Now, all we need is some 6 spd owners (with deep pockets) to step forward and let em know there's an interest in owning a n/a 55 powered Crossfire with a manual tranny.
Any takers?

 

With any engine other than the 55K, you have to use a starter button which requires 2 or more cranks to start. I don't think Rudy wants to do a n/*** or 500 engine until he can solve this. I believe he will figure this out eventually. I don't think I would want the six speed behind the 55K but since HDDP had no problems with the 32 engine, it should work well with the 500 engine that has a little more torque than the SRT but could be getting iffy with a n/a 55.

 

Is the Crossfire 6 spd. really that weak of a manual tranny? I mean doesn't Mercedes build some pretty "Torquey" Diesel motors that essentially have a manual tranny that's not beefed up anymore than what we're using?
As I said before, I don't speak fluent "Mercedes" so I may be way off base here.
I just assume that many times Mercedes doesn't offer a manual with many of its engines, simply because "they" figure there just isn't a big enough market for them.
I think I've read here on the forum the torque "limits" of Crossfire's 6 spd. transmission, but I really don't remember what it was. But don't ya think the biggest reason Mercedes doesn't offer a manual tranny many times, is because (even though it may hold up) it just may be a little more likely to break than the automatic is?
Too bad anybody who wants to put a 6 spd. behind their hi-po Crossfire motor, can't just get a hold of "Doug Nash" and be done with it.

 

The Kleemann compressor is still available (choose Germany in the country chooser / it's the one for the M112):

Kleemann Kompressor Systems

 

As much as I would like to have a v8 bolted to my 6 speed, this is probably the route I would take.

 

we get the joke haha, now enough with this electric supercharger bs.

 

Beg your pardon?

 

I have been running an electric supercharger in my N/A and beat Thirteen at the Dragon last fall. True stories. People know people that were there.

 

Eurocharged will install a turbo producing around 500hp for $6-7G. Only problem is you can kiss your clutch and differential good bye.

 

I'm down for a V8 6spd swap.

After showing my boyfriend the video of Lantana's V8 swap, I've convinced him we need to pick up a Crossfire and V8 swap it.

(as if I really needed another project car right now...) ha!

 

Hey Lantana,

What all would be necessary for a V-8 swap while keeping the 6-speed manual transmission? Right now I have a Limited Coupe '05, and am always looking for more power. Didn't someone mention someone coming into this thread with deep pockets? Well... I'm here. =D

 

There is a great AMG CLK55 engine on Ebay right now with 60K miles for a little over $3,000. This particular engine is ideal becasue looking at the pictures, it already has the correct oil pan, exhaust manifolds and fan clutch. Not a lot of extra parts would be needed and most of the stuff missing off this engine can be robbed from your V6. There are many unknowns which could cause potential problems and extra expense. Additional parts would be a C43 fan, shroud and radiator hoses. You should also figure an uprated clutch. Your flywheel just might bolt right up and then agan maybe not. If not the stock flywheel might be able to be redrilled. The transmission will bolt right up. Your best bet is to have Rudy do the swap. There is a key start issue to work out or you will have to start from a starter button as I currently do. Tell Rudy you have deep pockets and I am sure he will treat you fairly and give you whatever you want and can afford.

 

Well.... here's the problem. I'm still stuck in Iraq. I'm no where -near- my car, to do anything with it whatsoever. I was more looking for ideas for when I -did- manage to make it back. Granted, I could buy the engine, but it'd end up showing up at my friend's place, just sitting there till I got back. And who is Rudy..? Sorry.. I've been away from the forums for almost 8 ~ 9 months, and have missed quite a bit of the going's on. I already have a custom clutch from darkhelmetRT, since mine burned up a while back - you can find the posts on it around here still if you search. So, would that need to be changed in any way, shape, or form?

 

You want to go fast? Buy a Triumph Street Triple. 675cc that weighs 360 # and puts out 130 BHP with superb handling and brakes. Cost $10, 000. I got one and it is. Not my bike pictured but just like it. I modded mine with fairing etc.. NA injected. Gary

 

I already have a GSX-R 750, and gotten her up to 168 mph. Fast isn't just what I'm looking for. I love my Crossfire, and want to get -her- upgraded. Not just any run of the mill motorcycle. Thanks for the idea, even if it's not -quite- what we're discussing.