I see reaaaalllly long lead times in your future.....

I was speaking of some pretty old cars-these guys have been here for a while.

 

Such an interesting topic. I agree that you should leave the SLK alone but I was like you a few years back (Teck-9) and I'm glad it's out of my system somewhat. When I was 16 I had a 1996 Chevy Monte Carlo LS (terrible car, trans went out twice in one year) and I thought I was the coolest person on the road. I slapped some 2% window tint on (very bad idea) threw three 12" subs in the trunk (another really bad idea) and had red neon under the car as well as inside the interior. Now that I look back on it I really regret doing that and I wasted so much money on the stupidest things. I don't even like subs..... I only did it because that's what everyone else was doing and I wanted to be in the "cool" club. The whole neon inside and under the car is just as stupid as having really loud subs. People will just point at your car and laugh at you like no other. Don't do something you might regret down the road. It might seem like a good idea now but after a year or two your going to be hitting yourself on the head. Trust me I know what your going through and it's just a phase. Not saying there is nothing wrong with modding a car but be realistic and don't pay attention to those really souped up cars you see in magazines. The people who own those kinds of cars have plenty of money to play with. I imagine at your age your like me and don't have a whole lot of money to play around with.... so be wise with your money and think realistically.

 

We only got the most recent RS4 (B7 body style). IIRC, the B5 RS4 was actually a wagon. I know it's a common mod for those with the B5 S4 to add the RS4 goodies to their car. Interestingly, doing this actually improves the reliability of the car vs the stock 2.7tt found in the B5 S4. Though if you are going to go that route with an S4, you might also want to check out AWE Tuning, which is also well known and local to me!

 

The voice of reason and experience always falls on deaf ears.

BC.

 

You know, the wife has asked recently what I am going to replace my Accord with when i finally kill it (GOD, I hate this car!).

An Audi (A$$es Usually Drive It) may be in my future...thanks for the link, though I have friends there and may be able to bargain a bit...

 

As the owner of a 2003 A6 2.7T and a 2003 A4 3.0 MT6, I suggest you start reading up...and that's Mr A$$hole, to you.

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LOL! Audi's are great cars and I wouldn't mind owning one myself if they weren't so expensive. Also A-holes drive all makes and models.... no matter what you can't escape them.

 

Hey, hey, HEY! I said that ONLY because I figured ME driving an AUDI was a pretty good fit.

Ask anyone that knows me. Thanks for the links. It will be a 2-4 YO pre-owned. Daily driver/commuter.

BTW-do you like yours, and would you recommend ownership?

 

Whats the deal with these?
YouTube - slk 320 turbo vs nissan skyline gt-r
YouTube - Mercedes-Benz SLK320 Kompressor

 

HOLY CRAP!!!

I think I saw Bigfoot in the 2nd video!

 

the deal is the firstr vid the skyine didnt race and the second vid is a 230 kompressor not a 320

 

You know what 32 Krazy, I think you're right. I'm gonna quit with ruining my car and be patient until I have 200K to throw into startech and brabus packages. I've got a large inheritance and a great federal law enforcement career in my future. I'll get it some day. For now I'll just appreciate my car for how it looks and its enormous potential. I'm not kidding, I like this cars appearance more than any other even Lambos, astons, everything.

 

Good to hear Teck-9! There is nothing wrong with modifying a car but I recommend doing it within taste for resale value. Since I have owned my car all I have done so far was add an AMG badge inside the intererior (which is removable) and some aftermarket wheels wrapped in some nice summer tires. I still have my stock rims and I use those for winter driving cause I have all-season tires on them. The key to modifying a car that you don't plan on keeping is to add things that you can only remove later and replace with the original equipment. Then you can just sell your aftermarket piece by piece.

 

I do want the TVT headers though. When do those come out? And what is all this? http://www.tvtdesign.com/oem_parts_interchange Can anybody tell me more about these options?

 

Rumor has it the 32nd day of this month.

 

Its almost here....LMFAO

 

so basically its never happening. With that list in the link, i should be able to get what i want out of my stock engine. What kind of gains are we looking at for each item?

 

Throwing all these parts on your engine is a good start but I think you want a more kick in the pants performance upgrade and these really aren't going to cut it for what you're looking for. If you're serious about getting more performance, you need to think about getting a NW dual and a tune in addition to the upgraded TB and injectors. Forget about headers as they're not happening and stick to the tried and true stuff. It's out there and it does make power. Rob @ NeedsWings tests everything so you're not buying vaporware. He can get you all the parts as well and you'll get a fair price on everything from him.

Good luck with your quest for power and if you're still wanting to toss that 320 motor off a cliff, give Paul or myself a shout and we'll get you setup with something that will make you the envy of the neighborhood.

 

Coming down to earth, I realize that I couldn't even afford to get to your guys' location, let alone pay either of you to come to mine. I am comfortable with dropping 2-3K right now. That will get me the dual CAI with Large Throttle body, TVT race exhaust, the biggest injectors and fuel pump that I can find, then the best plugs and plug wires I can find and finally an ECU tune to even it all out. What I want to know though is can I do the 80 mm throttle-body swap, and will it fit with the NW dual CAI? Second, is there a fuel pump bigger than the 430? Third, how do injectors work? Under the OEM swap link, they say the M113's get 21 lbs per hour, but the TVT injectors claim only 17 lbs per hour, but are altered for better "atomization". Is there a way to get the 55 injectors and the TVT injectors and mix components for the best of both worlds? fourth, what are the details with the M113 MAF, and will it work with the 74 or 80 TB and the NW dual CAI? Fifth, I'm assuming its best to do the ECU tune after all other mods. And finally, What can a 320 N/A motor look to put out when all above upgrades are implemented to the best possible options? Just a ballpark, I won't hold anybody to it later if they're wrong. promise. If I can get over the crank 300hp, 300tq mark with 2-3K, I will be elated and satisfied for quite a while, at least until my fun-funds recover. The above are my immediate plans, followed by a weight reduction, oil catch can, and Teflon coated valve covers. Then a year or so down the road, all of TVT's best suspension upgrades, then when I'm in my career (hopefully within 4-5 years) I intend to get Kleeman internals and forced induction at which point I will need to go to Rudy. The best part is that I'll be able to afford him too. I think that's a more realistic approach and time-lline.

 

It's my opinion but I'd recommend Needswings any day over TVT. I've dealt with both and I can say that I've been 100% satisfied with Rob @ Needswings. Can't say the same for TVT. Rob will tell you what the product you're looking at buying will do and has the data to back it up. TVT has never posted a dyno sheet for a single product he has sold. He's always going to the dyno tomorrow if you know what I mean.

As for the injectors, there is nothing special happening and you don't just take them apart and change the internals to your liking. A select few companies can do this with their proprietary injectors but not TVT. He's sourcing the injectors from a distributor just the same as I or anyone else would. As for going with the biggest you can get, it won't make you more power but rather will do just the opposite and worst case, you run the risk of washing the cylinder walls and wrecking the engine. If you want to go with a slightly larger injector, you'd want to stick with something that is just a bump higher than stock. Remember that when you're looking at injector data, they are measured at 43.5 psi but our fuel systems run at 55.1 psi so that number is actually higher. The N/A stock injector data is 15.1 lbs/hr @ 43.5 psi which is equivalent to 17.0 lbs/hr @ 55.1 psi. The 5.0L V8 injector data is 18.75 lbs/hr @ 43.5 psi so if you do the math, it's aproximately 21.5 lbs/hr @55.1 psi which is a 26% increase in flow. In my opinion, this is too great a change. You're not running out of injector so there is no reason to change them. A tune will get them to where they need to be. Again, NeedsWings will get you taken care of in this department.

On to the fuel pump, they're the same between the N/A and the SRT6. If it will handle the needs of our injectors stock, there is no way you're gonna run into any problems with yours. If you feel the absolute need to buy a fuel pump just to say you did, get ahold of NeedsWings and tell him I'd like a walbro setup. He has my address. LOL I'll send you a nice little card and think of you every time I start my car. BTW, that was meant as a save your money statement.

Now on to the 80mm throttle body. Go big or go home right? WRONG! First off, the intake manifold isn't designed to for it so it would be the equivalent of running water through a fire hose but at the end of it, you've got a regular garden hose nozzle. Second, the intake manifold isn't designed for it so you'd have to machine out a larger opening, machine new mounting holes and then pray to god you got it all right and have no leaks. The 74mm is a great choice because not only will all your existing parts work with it, the intake manifold is actually designed for it and the two mate up perfectly. Just be sure to use a new TB gasket when you install the new one. The MB part number is A 112 141 13 80.

As for the race exhaust, just go with a magnaflow cat-back system if you want to mess with the exhaust. You might pick up a little power but exhaust mods aren't very drastic on these cars so no need to go with something off the wall. Lots of people have the magnaflows and are very happy with the way they sound and perform. You can even weld on the factory tips if you don't want it to look aftermarket.

Lastly, there is no need to go with the larger V8 MAF housing. You can save a few pennies by not buying it as the NeedsWings dual CAI comes with a matched MAF pipe. Part of the kit, tested and works like a charm just like the rest of his products. He has data to show how much better they flow compared to any other intake out there as well.

I know I've thrown out NeedsWings a lot in this post and a few of you are probably thinking I'm one of his nut swingers but the guy really does put a lot of time and money into making sure his products work and actually do what they advertise. He's also there if you run into troubles and need help with something. There is nothing he sells that he doesn't stand behind and if you need it, he either has it in stock or can make it/get it in stock as fast as anyone out there. Honestly, your best bet is to get in touch with Rob @ NeedsWings and talk over your plans and see what he can do to help you achieve them.