230K Engine swap?
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by Teck-9
What is harder and what would you charge more for? a v8 or an I4 conversion. And I sure do like the sound of this. YouTube - SLK intake & exhaust
Re: 230K Engine swap?
You have a vehicle with a gorgeous body and an engine that can run 200-300k miles with reasonable maintenance. You want to jeapordize that for something that, at the end of the day, will be a little faster and a lot less reliable. Go ahead, but don't ask us which is better or cheaper because we don't recommend it. And if you have to ask "how much", you can't afford it. You might want to consider a beater WRX and mod the crap out of that. Then you can enjoy your XF for what was meant to be, a solid, peppy (but not quick) sports car. But it is fast -- mine easily breaks 140 before I run out of road/guts. PS-Yes, Audi's can be modded (I have a chipped A6 2.7T with >300 hp) but don't get those owners going about the cost of parts and repairs. The more power you make, the more frequently other things break. It's like bog-running in a jeep (another youthful passion), another expensive hobby.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
just found and bought a SRT6 engine on carparts for 2700. cracked block and timing cover. I will replace them with my block and timing cover. Comes with supercharger, ecu and wiring harness. Picking it up next week. I shouldn't need any mods to the rest of my car to do that except for unlocking the ECU. I'm too into the looks of the XF to get anything else. If this doesn't work, anybody on here who has an SRT6 that is strapped for cash or cant afford insurance gas etc and wants to trade their SRT6 for an N/A plus cash, let me know. must be SSB, silver, or Black. Will consider aero blue.Im sorry if im pissing anybody off, but im not giving up on this. Every other aspect of my life is kept in responsible order. college, top of class, laser guided toward career, good health, bills paid, etc. I'm in a position where I can put alot of time into something and this is what I want it to be. Someday there will be a "well, he finally did it " thread. I'm not going to write off anybodys advice, but I plan to question it again and again until I'm sure on every aspect of it. Now Lantana also said that u should figure 1100 to 1300 on top of the engine cost so gotta figure lower than 2k to get an srt put in.
Last edited by Teck-9; 11-15-2010 at 03:01 PM.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Teck-9
At least you're starting to sound a bit more reasonable. Before you put your money down do you know how the engine got a cracked block? Make sure nothing that is supposed to be on the inside is now on the outside Also you will not be able to use your timing cover because they are different between the NA and the K motor. There is quite a bit of wiring and other components that you'll need (IC pump, inter cooler etc.).
If you have a manual transmission then mating the K motor to the trans isn't a slam dunk either. But with that said we'll have one done before spring so it is possible.
Research, patience and listening to those with far more experience than you will be your best assets my young friend...
Best of luck to you and stay safe...
Respectfully,
Paul (MisterTaz)
Owner of the world’s 1st AMG 5.5 V8 Kompressor Powered Crossfire!
At least you're starting to sound a bit more reasonable. Before you put your money down do you know how the engine got a cracked block? Make sure nothing that is supposed to be on the inside is now on the outside Also you will not be able to use your timing cover because they are different between the NA and the K motor. There is quite a bit of wiring and other components that you'll need (IC pump, inter cooler etc.).
If you have a manual transmission then mating the K motor to the trans isn't a slam dunk either. But with that said we'll have one done before spring so it is possible.
Research, patience and listening to those with far more experience than you will be your best assets my young friend...
Best of luck to you and stay safe...
Respectfully,
Paul (MisterTaz)
Owner of the world’s 1st AMG 5.5 V8 Kompressor Powered Crossfire!
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by MisterTaz
If you have a manual transmission then mating the K motor to the trans isn't a slam dunk either. But with that said we'll have one done before spring so it is possible
Will the manual trans hold up to this swap?
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by Crazy_K
Sorry for asking this question in someone else's thread but the gears in my head are rolling know. I am new to the forum and really like the idea of an SRT6 engine in a manual N/A.
Will the manual trans hold up to this swap?
Will the manual trans hold up to this swap?
Last edited by Franc Rauscher; 11-15-2010 at 04:36 PM.
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"anybody on here who has an SRT6 that is strapped for cash or cant afford insurance gas etc and wants to trade their SRT6 for an N/A plus cash, let me know. must be SSB, silver, or Black. Will consider aero blue."
Awww. I was already to trade when I noticed I had the wrong color.
Awww. I was already to trade when I noticed I had the wrong color.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by Teck-9
What is harder and what would you charge more for? a v8 or an I4 conversion. And I sure do like the sound of this. YouTube - SLK intake & exhaust
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by ProjectMayhem
320 motor can be built for performance N/A. Cams, higher compression, Headers(when done properly), tuned length intake manifolds,dual throttlebody,or even independant throttlebodies with the right lenght velocity stacks. That alone would get you past stock srt-6 levels... and make for a fun road car.
Remember this is a motor like any other and can be built for performance.
Remember this is a motor like any other and can be built for performance.
Last edited by Teck-9; 11-15-2010 at 06:51 PM.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by downwardspiral
How's that coming? I'm looking forward to seeing it done!
Just about any motor swap is possible, just remember the rule of Pi. If you have never done it before it will take 3.14.... times as much effort, money, and time that you think it will. And if you have never done anything like it before it's Pi squared.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
I'm getting closer everyday, The first three weeks in December are dedicated to completing it.
Just about any motor swap is possible, just remember the rule of Pi. If you have never done it before it will take 3.14.... times as much effort, money, and time that you think it will. And if you have never done anything like it before it's Pi squared.
Just about any motor swap is possible, just remember the rule of Pi. If you have never done it before it will take 3.14.... times as much effort, money, and time that you think it will. And if you have never done anything like it before it's Pi squared.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by rcompart
Sorry but that is ridiculous. If you think a shop can do it for less than 10k you're nuts. There is 40-50 hours of wiring and other misc things that need to be done on these cars and you're talking about going from one gen ECU to another. That means everything has to be re-pinned and you have to pour over schematics and diagrams to determine where all the wires go because there is no conversion for dummies book at your local library. You know how long it takes to put new ends on 100+ wires and then make sure they all end up in the right place? I hate telling people that it can't be done because anything can happen if you have the time, money and patience but you're lacking two of the three prerequisites. Best advice I can give you is take your car and trade it in for something that better fits your needs. I'm sorry to say this as I wouldn't want anyone to get rid of these awesome little cars but at some point, you have to realize that this might not be the platform for you to do your modding on.
Seriously. Just buy something else. These cars, like all modern european cars, are overly complicated. It would be an electrical nightmare to get something like this done. This isn't like writing directions out for changing the oil.
I think the most important question to you, Tek-9, is why? Why are you so against just buying the appropriate car for your interests? Why not just an SRT6--they are among the best performance bargains currently available.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by Crazy_K
Sorry for asking this question in someone else's thread but the gears in my head are rolling know. I am new to the forum and really like the idea of an SRT6 engine in a manual N/A.
Will the manual trans hold up to this swap?
Will the manual trans hold up to this swap?
Putting a SRT engine in a n/a is similar to putting a 55K engine in but slightly easier. since you can use the stock fan and shroud and exhaust bolts right up. You could have a problem with the flywheel as I it may have a different bolt pattern. If I was doing this, I would get the SRT6 flex plate and compare it to the n/a flywheel for balance factor and bolt pattern. It the bolt pattern is different you may be able to get it redrilled. You would also want to rebalance the flywheel to match the balance factor of the SRT flex plate. Aslo you would need a C32/SLK32 ECU as the SRT ECU cannot be reprogramed by the MB system since MB system doesn't recognize SRT ECU as it has a differenct part number which was never used in a MB. It may be possible to update the firmware of the SRT ECU to the SLK32/C32 version, but not sure. We are still learning what is possible...
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APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.
Audi or VW. Lots of go-fast parts and knowledge.
I put this in here only because they are a local company that unlike most things down here-is done right. There are a few RS4's running 400+ HP and my, my, my are they fast.
Audi or VW. Lots of go-fast parts and knowledge.
I put this in here only because they are a local company that unlike most things down here-is done right. There are a few RS4's running 400+ HP and my, my, my are they fast.
Last edited by maxcichon; 11-16-2010 at 11:52 AM.
Re: 230K Engine swap?
Originally Posted by maxcichon
APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.
Audi or VW. Lots of go-fast parts and knowledge.
I put this in here only because they are a local company that unlike most things down here-is done right. There are a few RS4's running 400+ HP and my, my, my are they fast.
Audi or VW. Lots of go-fast parts and knowledge.
I put this in here only because they are a local company that unlike most things down here-is done right. There are a few RS4's running 400+ HP and my, my, my are they fast.