I just recently upgrade my complete braking system with C32 front calipers, R1 Premium rotors all the way around and SS lines + Motul Fluid from Rob @ Needswings. This thing stops on a dime from 100mph w/o any fade. I was never a big believer in racing brake fluid but the fade is night and day difference after repeated hard braking. If anyone is on the fence about lines & fluid, just pony up and do it.

 

When I first put stainless lines on my car I couldn't feel a difference. The stock system is real good the way it is but if you plan on braking hard and frequently like at the Dragon then upgraded pads, fluid and lines are worth it. The stainless lines help the feel of the brakes just before ABS gets involved i.e. at the limit of braking traction. Until I'm are at that limit, I can't feel a difference but once at that limit it's easier to threshold brake. They are also more resistance to rocks or rubbing, should it occur. With ATE Blue, Motul or equivalent Dot 4 fluid the pads will overheat and fade before the fluid. I say this because it happened to me. If my car was a daily driver, with occasional canyon runs, I would replace the fluid and put better pads in the calipers. The stainless lines .... most don't use the brakes hard enough to benefit from them. If the pads overheat they pretty much melt away and loose around half, not all, of their stopping power. If the fluid boils the pedal goes to the floor and you have no brakes. From my experience and point of view, Dot 4 racing fluid, pads suited to how you plan to abuse the brakes, stainless lines last. If you overheat the brakes after all that, brake ducts to get more air for cooling and last but not least, bigger rotors and calipers for better heat dissipation. As far as slotted or drilled or both as long as you don't overheat the rotors they are fine and give better initial bite. I can't imagine anyone overheating them on the street but if you manage, they will get stress cracking and be ruined in no time. My slotted rotors still look like new after almost a year of track usage.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and have Stoptech's on my Crossfire (355 mm slotted front and stock size slotted rear) with Carbotech pads, stainless lines and Motul 600. I need a closed face helmet to keep my eyeballs from getting lost.

Les

 

STOPS SO FAST THE SNOT WILL SHOOT OUT YOUR NOSE

 

I have been running the C32 calipers and drilled rotors in front and slotted rotors in back with Goodridge lines and ATE Blue racing fluid for over a year... excellent combo.... I will upgrade the front rotors when they wear out....

 

So say that I was to buy some SS lines to put in also, where would you guys recommend getting them? So far it looks like I'm getting premium slotted R1 rotors from R1's site (cause I'm still worried I'll crack a drilled one in no time, and I don't that kind of money to be replacing them all the time), probably akebono euro pads from tirerack, and either ATE super blue or Motul for fluid whereever I can find it.

 

I am one for supporting Vendors on this site so Id PM Rob-Needswings, or just go to needswings.com. He keeps them in stock and ships next or same day you order.

 

I've used Goodridge and Stoptech's lines and both are high quality. The Goodridge lines have a lifetime warranty, I can't remember for sure if the Stoptech lines do too, but I think so. ATE blue or amber are easy to find. You could try a European aftermarket parts store for ATE which is less expensive than Motul RBF 600. Lots of motorcycles owners use Motul RBF 600 so call some motorcycle shops to see if they have it locally. The Crossfire is not that heavy and you really have to use the brakes hard to have a problem with a quality rotor. But the guys at the track I attend don't use drilled. Most use plain rotors followed by slotted and a few have slotted and dimpled. Or just call Rob at Needswings.

Les