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Old 09-01-2010 | 08:29 PM
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Well I put the LM-25s (265/35/19s) on the rear today (the Exclaims were almost slicks & got a startle in the rain this morning ...bam-bam-bam TC!!)

They're only V rated (but are unidirectional)......but I rarely go over 149mph anyway!!

Tires-easy still wants $367 each????? I paid Tire-Rack $105!!!!

Took them up to 100 this afternoon & did some modest cornering.....I can't tell they are winter tires...

If they don't last long....so what, I haven't been able to get over 25K out of any tire so far.

No louder than the Exclaims.

Maybe because they are load rated 94 (whereas the OEMs are only 92)....but I sense no sidewall flex so far &...they are no more squirmy brand new than the Exclaims were when they were brand new??.


PS: still happy with the $67 Achilles ATR Sports on the front.
 

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Old 09-01-2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
I'm actually going to shock everyone and go from PS2s to Conti's... The new Continental DWS.

I've heard some excellent feedback from these tires. Dry grip is very good, not "PS Cup good" but certainly good enough from me. I have a friend that drives like a total maniac and he's only broken them loose once...

The biggest push for me purchasing them is the wear. They're warrantied for 50,000 miles. I've also heard huge praise about the silence of the tire, and the good ride w/o sacrificing much handling. Oh, and they're only $50 more than the CHEAPEST tire for OEM sizes. That's a steal.

The other consideration is that this IS my daily... So it will be driven on snowy December days just like the balmy July ones. These tires apparently "do it all" as best as any tire ever has to date. Hydro-resistance is top notch.

My PS2's, on the other hand, handle great when it's warm but they wear quickly and are very loud at this point. And as another member said, $400 a tire is simply retarded.

95% of my driving is around town, and on the highway back and forth to work. So, I need compliance and safety and mileage more than absolute handling.

In my town, traffic is so thick I couldn't experience the limits of handling if I tried...
I have have had the DWS's on the front for about 3000 miles now and I love them. They replaced a set of General Exclaims (summer tread) that were on the car when I purchased it used. They ride very smooth and have a surprisingly firm side wall for an allseason tire. I do notice that I will get understeer a little sooner than I did before, but I feel like am still able to get plenty of fun and excitement out of the backroad sweepers with the DWS. With that said the only adverse conditions I have encountered since their installation is wet pavement. They seem to disperse the water fine at least enough to prevent hydroplaning at regular hwy speeds. Have yet to purchase a set for the rear, but sooner or later they will be installed in the back aswell.

Oh, and the Large block font "Continental' letters look bada** with nice coat of tire shine applied.
 

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Old 09-02-2010 | 06:46 AM
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I still have the orginal contis on 04 with 24,500 miles still rides good plenty of tread left !!! I have heard great things about Hankook evos 12 will be next tires !!!!
 
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Old 09-02-2010 | 06:47 AM
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Hey Blackbelt, on the TireRack website they listed Superior Acura off of 75th/I-35 as an installer ....$21 + $1.50 disposal fee + tax. I called them & they agreed to do the rears on the XF yesterday....with tax it came to $47.26 .....nice waiting area-free Coke plus they washed the car when they were finished.

Also got Fred's oil change cheap....I buy the oil/filter & Parkway Service in KCK charges me $13-14 to do the change.
 
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Old 09-02-2010 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Took them up to 100 this afternoon & did some modest cornering.....I can't tell they are winter tires...

but I sense no sidewall flex so far &...they are no more squirmy brand new than the Exclaims were when they were brand new??.
Maybe it is because I am used to the ultra sticky, ultra low pro 20s on mine, and then I switch to OEM wheels with the LM-25s, but I think as far as performance and handling go, they are crap compared to my summer setup. They do grab nice off the line, but in roundabouts or fast cornering, they 'walk' quite a bit and sidewall flex is not much better.

Glad they are working out much better for you. Please keep us updated on the life on them in the summer months....
 
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Old 09-02-2010 | 10:00 AM
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Boiler, exactly what size did you put on the OEM front wheels? Tire rack doesn't list a 225/40/18....
 
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Old 09-02-2010 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Boiler, exactly what size did you put on the OEM front wheels? Tire rack doesn't list a 225/40/18....
I have a 225/40-18 on my front, but I have had them since 8/7/09 and paid $155 for the fronts and $185 for the rears.
 
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Old 09-02-2010 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Hey Blackbelt, on the TireRack website they listed Superior Acura off of 75th/I-35 as an installer ....$21 + $1.50 disposal fee + tax. I called them & they agreed to do the rears on the XF yesterday....with tax it came to $47.26 .....nice waiting area-free Coke plus they washed the car when they were finished.

Also got Fred's oil change cheap....I buy the oil/filter & Parkway Service in KCK charges me $13-14 to do the change.
Thanks for the tip. I will look into them.
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 02:27 AM
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Yeah, I still have my PS 2's on the rear for over 20k++ miles. Mixture of hard street driving, track and daily driver.

Replaced the fronts
with Pirelli Nero's.
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 05:51 AM
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Don't make fun of me Boiler, despite the fact that it's been close to 100 F recently......we could have snow to shovel within the next 2 months........by next April (end of snow season) they'll have 10,000 miles on them & will be shaved down enough to handle almost like summer tires & then be worn out by this time next year & I'll replace them. I contacted Tire Rack & asked if I could get another set for $105...(they jacked the price up to $136)....they replied that they paid over $105 each for the current batch.

The 265/35s do fill the wheel wells better than the 275/30s that were on there...
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Don't make fun of me Boiler, despite the fact that it's been close to 100 F recently......we could have snow to shovel within the next 2 months........by next April (end of snow season) they'll have 10,000 miles on them & will be shaved down enough to handle almost like summer tires & then be worn out by this time next year & I'll replace them. I contacted Tire Rack & asked if I could get another set for $105...(they jacked the price up to $136)....they replied that they paid over $105 each for the current batch.

The 265/35s do fill the wheel wells better than the 275/30s that were on there...
I do not remember making fun of you, if you interpretted something this way, I apologize.

I think your logic about the tread wearing down and being better for summer is a little off. It is not the thick tread that makes them marshmellowey (is that a word? LOL) it is the more flexible sidewall, this will not change.

I am not saying anything you are doing is wrong, but I enjoy driving my car too much to put something on it that will hinder my performance to save a few pennies. When an oil change is $100 to do myself, I can afford a few more dollers to run the best (recommended) tire for the appropriate season....
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 01:03 PM
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I sense that any squirm is due to the "newness" (mold lubricants) & deep tread depth (11/32nds), I felt the same way when the Exclaims were brand new. Doesn't the 94 rating (which is about 100 lbs more than the 92 rating of the OEMs) suggest that the sidewalls are even stronger/stiffer than the Contis? I took some pretty good curving roundabouts at speed this morning on the way to the casino & ....it was fun!

I do admit a slight sensation of the added 5 lbs/tire.....

I also suppose it might make a difference because I've only got them on the rear....but I went out and pushed on the sidewalls & they are hard as rocks....no movement at all...whereas when I push on the fronts (40 series) I do get some movement.

Regarding the issue of having winter tires on the rear & all seasons on the front and any problem with substantial traction differences.....I don't think it applies in the dry & when there is wet-ice-or snow.....I drive pretty slow anyway.....besides....we have TC & Stability Control.
 

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Old 09-03-2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Doesn't the 94 rating (which is about 100 lbs more than the 92 rating of the OEMs) suggest that the sidewalls are even stronger/stiffer than the Contis? I took some pretty good curving roundabouts at speed this morning on the way to the casino & ....it was fun!
Based on the way I understand this, and I have been wrong before the 94 load rating means nothing about the sidewall, it has to do with the load capacity of the tire. A 94 rating car take 1477 pounds per tire, which simply means you can have more weight riding on the tire. The same way a truck tire is going to have a rating over 100, and my 235/30-20 with a sidewall practically made of cold rolled steel has a rating of only 88.
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 04:11 PM
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I have Falken 452's and I've had a few people comment on what great shape they're in, amazed that they were on the car when I got it and that I've put 20,000 kilometeres on them since.
Then, when she was in for the oil change last week they told me they were almost worn out on the inside, wearing unevenly due to the ride height being lowered.
Can someone please explain what this means to this newbie?
 
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Old 09-03-2010 | 06:31 PM
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I can't help but believe that at least to some degree the max load rating of a tire is at least somewhat related to how strong / stiff the sidewalls are......
 
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Old 09-06-2010 | 06:05 PM
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I found out the LM-25s will do 120 with no problem, lucky for me the patrol car was on the other side of I-70...he turned on his lights....but I disappeared on the next unseen exit....
 
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Old 09-06-2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by midlife chrysler
I have Falken 452's and I've had a few people comment on what great shape they're in, amazed that they were on the car when I got it and that I've put 20,000 kilometeres on them since.
Then, when she was in for the oil change last week they told me they were almost worn out on the inside, wearing unevenly due to the ride height being lowered.
Can someone please explain what this means to this newbie?
It means that the tire is not sitting on the whole tire face evenly, camber is out due to lowering. The wheel points inward at the top.
You have to have the camber correct for even wear among other settings.
 
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Old 09-12-2010 | 01:27 PM
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Default OEM Contis @ 22k and pretty thin

Got a '06 base 6-speed coupe.

OEM Contis are @ 22k and the wear bars are starting to show on the rears.

Seems like they are getting a little hard and don't stick like they used to.

Turn-in is still pretty good but I'm feeling the tail come out more than previously...I like hanging the tail out but the bite is starting to go away.

Don't like the way the rear rims are wider than the tire; too easy to scuff up the rim on curbs and I want more rubber on the road.

Anybody tried fitting a little wider tire on the rears?

I like the stock rims OK so I'm just looking at getting a little more tread width and a little extra side wall height would be OK to. The roads around Cincy are pretty bad and you can't always avoid every seam and pothole.
 
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Old 09-12-2010 | 05:35 PM
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Between 23000 & 47750 miles on the odometer I had General Exclaims on the rear, they were 275/30/19s...replaced with 265/35/19s (the LM-25s)....must say these look much more appropriate in the wheel wells than the 275/30s. Too low of a profile tire....looks stupid in my opinion.


 

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Old 09-12-2010 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Hey Blackbelt, on the TireRack website they listed Superior Acura off of 75th/I-35 as an installer ....$21 + $1.50 disposal fee + tax. I called them & they agreed to do the rears on the XF yesterday....with tax it came to $47.26 .....nice waiting area-free Coke plus they washed the car when they were finished.

Did they have any problems with our TPM system or charge you for any extra replacement parts?
 


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