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Old 03-04-2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
UH, like, I think that is what I said.

Machinery is only half the equation.

It's like fast draw gunslingers. Wyatt Earp used to say that to be a successful fast draw gunfighter meant that you draw slowly, purposely and with careful precision...But you do so very fast.

What many here are saying is that they are doing respectably well with the Crossies, despite the stats from the engineers. While the car is exdtrodinary in it's ability to amplify the skill of the driver, as Firemax has suggested, the driver is still a significant part of the equation.

My Production manager has a 2006 GT Mustang with a cobra body kit and a tune. Right now on the street he has a slight edge doing 1/4 mile sprints barely nosing ahead. Stats say he ought to whip me easy.
We go into twisties and by the third turn he is looking out his side windows to see where the road went. 'Cause it ain't in front of him anymore.

And me,he doesn't see anymore, 'cause I'm gone.

I worry because he is learning to draw slow, and with purpose.


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The question was srt-6 vs TVT 6-speed. I am pretty sure it was towards the cars, not the cars with certain drivers. Now if the comparison was something like this "jack in his 06 GT mustang against mike in his TVT 6speed crossfire" then the driver would be HUGE role of that "SPECIFIC" race. but we are comparing cars here, what the cars are capable of.

So since your boss' 06 GT barely nosing away from you, let me ask you this (assuming you have bolts on 6speed N/A) do you honestly think an 06 stang GT should barely nosing away from you instead of putting a few cars on you? A car that traps 103-104mph bone stock. with a tune pull that up to 106mph because a simple tune wakes those cars up.

I have raced thousands times against many different cars and have beaten many cars which should have beaten me. I never went around and stated that my car is quicker than that car. However, i mentioned that i beat the driver...
 
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Old 03-04-2010 | 06:57 PM
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i think what most are failing to see is that your comparing a heavily modded n/a to a stock srt-6. apples to oranges. put the same amount of money in the srt-6 and you have a car that will not only outperform the n/a it will obliterate it. as for the twisties im skeptical. my auto performs as well as needed and the on demand power gets me to the curves so fast im slamming the brakes to avoid running off the road.
there is no comparison!

you say you were looking at one in memphis. im close to nashville so come by and ill have you screamin for sure
 
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Old 03-04-2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i think what most are failing to see is that your comparing a heavily modded n/a to a stock srt-6. apples to oranges. put the same amount of money in the srt-6 and you have a car that will not only outperform the n/a it will obliterate it. as for the twisties im skeptical. my auto performs as well as needed and the on demand power gets me to the curves so fast im slamming the brakes to avoid running off the road.
there is no comparison!

you say you were looking at one in memphis. im close to nashville so come by and ill have you screamin for sure
the dragon itself is so close and compact, Tom's mini would kick our butts...it almost becomes a go-cart track in some sections...its hard on tires, get rear end lift, and front end push, and accomplish nothing...I love the hell bender, its more fun for all out playing...if you tighten a coarse too tight, well nothing can perform, but a go-cart, or a sport bike...that's why the sport bikes are zooming around us....
 
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Old 03-04-2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
The question was srt-6 vs TVT 6-speed. I am pretty sure it was towards the cars, not the cars with certain drivers. Now if the comparison was something like this "jack in his 06 GT mustang against mike in his TVT 6speed crossfire" then the driver would be HUGE role of that "SPECIFIC" race. but we are comparing cars here, what the cars are capable of.

So since your boss' 06 GT barely nosing away from you, let me ask you this (assuming you have bolts on 6speed N/A) do you honestly think an 06 stang GT should barely nosing away from you instead of putting a few cars on you? A car that traps 103-104mph bone stock. with a tune pull that up to 106mph because a simple tune wakes those cars up.

I have raced thousands times against many different cars and have beaten many cars which should have beaten me. I never went around and stated that my car is quicker than that car. However, i mentioned that i beat the driver...
Easy on the testosterone.

I think it should be obvious of what the cars are each capable. It was never a comparison of SRT to NA. It was how can the NA be improved to match the SRT. The rest about the drivers and such was where the conversation went, as it always does on this subject.

As to my boss's car, you got the facts mixed up. I'm, HIS boss and helped him buy the damm thing so I know the car well. My Boss drives a heavily modded SRT aero blue Coupe. She beats my @ss with regularity. All the way home unless we take the twisty route.

If you must, the comparison of the Mustang and the Camaro is mute. This thread was about whether to mod and tune an NA an keep the stick or go for the SRT6. In the end it depends on what you want to beat. If you want to beat Mustangs and SS Camaros at a stop light, forget the NA .

But if you like to participate in the vehicles movement over the ground, in a very direct way,and enjoy leaving the muscle cars in the ditch when they try to keep up, the NA, properly tuned and modded, will do a repectable job.

I too have driven many cars. So what? As OleDoc2U said, anyone can pour a ton of money into a car and make it fast. So what? With enough HP one can make a brick fly. So what?

Many underpowered cars with a manual tranny and a few bucks wisely spent, can provide excitement and a few victories over the flame bellowing hog that can't always stay on the pavement

The NA is the best example I've seen of such a car. It can be modded and, under certain conditions, keep up with an SRT but, it will never be an SRT.

TVT's comments, not with standing,the $4K to $6K difference between the current market price of the two, it is simply not worth the expense and the effort to try.

And that, I believe, is what this thread was originaly asking.

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Old 03-04-2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Easy on the testosterone.

I think it should be obvious of what the cars are each capable. It was never a comparison of SRT to NA. It was how can the NA be improved to match the SRT. The rest about the drivers and such was where the conversation went, as it always does on this subject.

As to my boss's car, you got the facts mixed up. I'm, HIS boss and helped him buy the dam thing so I know the car well. My Boss drives a heavily modded SRT aero blue Coupe. She beats my @ss with regularity. All the way home unless we take the twisty route.

If you must, the comparison of the Mustang and theCamaro is mute. This thread was aboout whether to mod and tune an NA an keepp thestick or go for the SRT6. In the end it depends on what you want to beat. If you want to beat Mustangs and SS Camaros at a stop light, forget the NA .

But if you like to participate in the vehicles movement over the ground, in a very direct way,and enjoy leaving the muscle cars in the ditch when they try to keep up, the NA, properly tuned and modded, will do a repectable job.

I too have driven many cars. So what? As OleDoc2U said, anyone can pour a ton of money into a car and make it fast. So what? With enough HP one can make a brick fly. So what?

Many underpowered cars with a manual tranny and a few bucks wisely spent, can provide excitement and a few victories over the flame bellowing hog that can't always stay on the pavement

The NA is the best example I've seen of such a car. It can be modded and, under certain conditions, keep up with an SRT but, it will never be an SRT.

TVT's comments, not with standing,the $4K to $6K difference between the current market price of the two, it is simply not worth the expense and the effort to try.

And that, I believe, is what this thread was originaly asking.

roadster with a stick
That sums it well Franc...like I said, I hate to even go there, so I won't anymore...hopefully, your St. Louis track time will pan out, so it can be done safely...lol
 
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