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Old 01-26-2010 | 11:20 AM
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Well, I JUST found out that the previous owner not only replaced the stock headunit, he also replaced door and rear speakers. Which is supposed to be a good thing but I am not satisfied with the sound that much.

door speakers are Crunch GTR and rear speakers are PYLE brand. Not sure about their size or any other specs. All I know is I am not really satisfied with them. Must sound better than stock since he "upgraded".

I just bid on a stock infinity radio from a 2007 crossfire and I am thinking about picking a pair of Infinity kappa speakers (no idea which size so i will need your help. a link would be greatly appreciated.)

About rear speakers, I want to put something more powerful but I do not want to upgrade the stock AMP. So something powerful enough for stock AMP.

Also, the rear speakers are facing inwards, hard to explain, i will post pics very soon. Basically driver side rear speaker is looking at passenger side and pass. side rear speaker is looking at diver side about 45 degrees. Is this normal or this dude modified it?

The thing that bothers me the most is, my door handles are professionally covered. Whoever did it, did one hell of a job, looks like from the factory. And the problem is, in order to replace the speakers, i need to remove the door panels and in order to replace the door panels, i need to remove two screws from the door handles which i have no access

I don't know what to do at this point, where to start, etc...
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 11:22 AM
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Pictures of your doors please.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 11:53 AM
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Pictures of your doors please.
ok here is the driver side rear speaker: (this is how they are suppose to look like? no covers?

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pass side rear speaker:

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side door speaker:

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Here is a close shot of door handle (ignore the dirt please)

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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:12 PM
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AHHH there's dirt on your handle,

I'll have to look but I don't remember seeing the rear speakers at all in any of my crossfires. Infact I believe theres a plastic piece behind my seat. I never look back there so I'll have a peek next time I'm near my car.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:19 PM
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A while back I installed Infinty Reference 6 1/2" 2 ways in the doors. Left the subs alone and upgraded to a Pioneer Headunit. Sounds great to me. Read the Biggest... thread.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-buck-mod.html

Installing 6" 2 ways in place of the subs was a mistake in my opinion. The Infinitys in the doors and the caps and headunit sound nice in my opinion, but it is that-just an opinion. I have a roadster and it is MORE than loud enough.
 

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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:23 PM
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Yes... you have a problem here! A lot of wierd things about your car!

I like your door handle. There must be a way to take it off without destroying it. If not this radio conversion will end up costing you more in the end because you will need factory door handles. If the silver mount is still there you may only need the silver covers. That could cost you about 20 dollars each for new pieces.

Not sure why you would want to put the factory radio back in. I took mine out and love the new radio. My Blaupunkt matches the silver interior very well.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:25 PM
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A while back I installed Infinty Reference ^ 1/2" 2 ways in the doors. Left the subs alone and upgraded to a Pioneer Headunit. Sounds great to me. Read the Biggest... thread.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-buck-mod.html

Installing 6" 2 ways in place of the subs was a mistake in my opinion. The Infinitys in the doors and the caps and headunit sound nice in my opinion, but it is that-just an opinion. I have a roadster and it is MORE than loud enough.
Maybe a stupid question because i am dumb when it comes to electronics but any idea what i have by looking at pics? what size speakers i have at the doors and what size at the back?

any brand & size recommendation for the doors and the back that will fit right in? I would like to replace them both and possibly a stock infinity headunit is gonna me on my hands very soon.

It appears i am gonna have to tear up the door handle covers. I hope they didnt glue it but it doesn't move so i am almost certain that they did

thanks.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirteendog
AHHH there's dirt on your handle,

I'll have to look but I don't remember seeing the rear speakers at all in any of my crossfires. Infact I believe theres a plastic piece behind my seat. I never look back there so I'll have a peek next time I'm near my car.
I think there is a rear speaker in the limited behind the seat. I have a base coupe and there is nothing.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:28 PM
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Muscle... by the way, the previous owner probably had the covers put on because most of us had issues with the door handles. They would split in the back and would become dangerous (like a razor). Some people have cut their fingers on them. I had mine replaced at the dealership under warranty a long time ago.

Just an FYI in case you weren't aware of the reasoning behind it. The previous owners intention was good... just didn't think it through properly.
 

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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:32 PM
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Yes... you have a problem here! A lot of wierd things about your car!

I like your door handle. There must be a way to take it off without destroying it. If not this radio conversion will end up costing you more in the end because you will need factory door handles. If the silver mount is still there you may only need the silver covers. That could cost you about 20 dollars each for new pieces.

Not sure why you would want to put the factory radio back in. I took mine out and love the new radio. My Blaupunkt matches the silver interior very well.
The car is actually great, i figured a lot of things about it. it appears the previous owner did three modifications, 1-lowered it (i LOVE it, handles awesome), 2-changed the sound system (i hate it), 3-leather wrapped the door handles which i love. Any other things i have mentioned in my first thread when i bought the car were really working, i just didnt know how to get them to work.

I think they did a horrible job with the sound system. sometimes it sounds really good and sometimes it doesn't (when the car is cold. not sure if cold weather effects the electronics)

About the stock radio, i just like the clean stock look. I should have a decent sound with upgraded door and rear speakers with stock radio right?
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
I think there is a rear speaker in the limited behind the seat. I have a base coupe and there is nothing.
can't be because behind my seats are smooth as glass, no sign of speakers ever being there and i trully believe that my seats were never replaced
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
can't be because behind my seats are smooth as glass, no sign of speakers ever being there and i trully believe that my seats were never replaced
Behind the seat in the shelf. I drove the Firebird in today or I would take pics. The factory woofer was behind the seat. There is a small opening about the size of a baseball on both sides with plastic grates on it. Again you'll understand once you see pics.

On to the door handles, It's very possible that whoever put them on didn't put screws back in the door. There are 4 tabs Front, Back, Top, and Bottom. That hold them in on each side (left/right) They were challenging to get off when I could see the tabs, I can't imagine how difficult it would be if you could see the tabs. Again pics help, and luckily for you I believe I have my old handles at home that I can take photos of when I get home.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:14 PM
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Here is the pic of my pass side door. I cant wait to see the pics of the rear speakers. I am soo tempted to place my order on set of door and rear speakers....

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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
Here is the pic of my pass side door.
It may be difficult but can you get a pic of the back side of your door handles? Is there like a seem or anything?
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
can't be because behind my seats are smooth as glass, no sign of speakers ever being there and i trully believe that my seats were never replaced
I meant they were on the back wall behind the seat... not on the seat

Good luck with this. I think the stock stereo is ok. All I did was pull my stock stereo out and put a silver plate blaupunkt in. I love the look of the new stereo. The only reason why I did this was so I could use my ipod. Otherwise I was very happy with the stock stereo.

The beauty is because I used a Blaupunkt the connections are exactly the same as the stock radio. If I want to switch it back it would take me 5 min. Just slide and plug the stock stereo back in. That simple!
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
Maybe a stupid question because i am dumb when it comes to electronics but any idea what i have by looking at pics? what size speakers i have at the doors and what size at the back?

any brand & size recommendation for the doors and the back that will fit right in? I would like to replace them both and possibly a stock infinity headunit is gonna me on my hands very soon.

It appears i am gonna have to tear up the door handle covers. I hope they didnt glue it but it doesn't move so i am almost certain that they did

thanks.
Do you have a base (black windshield surround/no foglights)? The base Crossfire has no subs behind the seats. The hole for them is there, though. They can be added.

Those are for 6 1/2" speakers.

The doors also take 6 1/2". I used Infinity 6022i. Very nice. The OEM speakers are no comparison:

Infinity Reference 6022i 6 1/2"- 6 3/4" Reference Series 2-Way Car Speakers

If you strike out on the OEM headunit, I have my old one and will give it up for a low price-just not free. It worked fine when I swapped it out.

The addition of the capacitors is for cars with the rear subs only. Black07 was right. There should be an oval black/gray plastic grill low behind each seat. I'm not sure if the base cars have that hole-you'll have to check it out. Sorry, bud!
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:55 PM
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By the way- that is one heckuva price for the Infinity speakers!

As for getting the door panels off-the nice leather covers may have to go. Too bad-those look choice!
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirteendog
It may be difficult but can you get a pic of the back side of your door handles? Is there like a seem or anything?
this is the best pic i could get.

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Old 01-26-2010 | 02:00 PM
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Do you have a base (black windshield surround/no foglights)? The base Crossfire has no subs behind the seats. The hole for them is there, though. They can be added.

Those are for 6 1/2" speakers.

The doors also take 6 1/2". I used Infinity 6022i. Very nice. The OEM speakers are no comparison:

Infinity Reference 6022i 6 1/2"- 6 3/4" Reference Series 2-Way Car Speakers

If you strike out on the OEM headunit, I have my old one and will give it up for a low price-just not free. It worked fine when I swapped it out.

The addition of the capacitors is for cars with the rear subs only. Black07 was right. There should be an oval black/gray plastic grill low behind each seat. I'm not sure if the base cars have that hole-you'll have to check it out. Sorry, bud!
my car is white and it is limited. I will take your stock head unit if everything is in place. Please PM me a price and let's get that going so i can cancel my bid on ebay. thanks.
 
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Old 01-26-2010 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Musclefan21
this is the best pic i could get.

You may be in luck. That looks like stitching. Does anyone else agree?
 


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