Ram Air system
Ram Air system
Anybody thought of getting something like thesedone? or actually anybody did anything like these? if so, what is the efficiency? I personally think these would bring you the most power from any other intake systems but may require a retune. I am no engineer nor a crossfire expert so these kind of designs may not be possible but from looking outside, it looked possible to me. If i had the equipments and the opportunity, i would give a shot and log it.
What do you think?
this is the first design, a new hood and you would have the air filter right after the MAF sensor right there so cold air would go directly to it.
photo_300_04_Chrysler_Crossfire.jpg
and here is the second more like muscle car look, you would have a special design of air intake system which would stick out of the hood.
chrysler_crossfire_roadster_limited.jpg
Yes I was bored
What do you think?
this is the first design, a new hood and you would have the air filter right after the MAF sensor right there so cold air would go directly to it.
photo_300_04_Chrysler_Crossfire.jpg
and here is the second more like muscle car look, you would have a special design of air intake system which would stick out of the hood.
chrysler_crossfire_roadster_limited.jpg
Yes I was bored
Last edited by Musclefan21; 01-20-2010 at 03:33 PM.
Re: Ram Air system
Originally Posted by Musclefan21
Anybody thought of getting something like thesedone? or actually anybody did anything like these? if so, what is the efficiency? I personally think these would bring you the most power from any other intake systems but may require a retune. I am no engineer nor a crossfire expert so these kind of designs may not be possible but from looking outside, it looked possible to me. If i had the equipments and the opportunity, i would give a shot and log it.
What do you think?
this is the first design, a new hood and you would have the air filter right after the MAF sensor right there so cold air would go directly to it.
and here is the second more like muscle car look, you would have a special design of air intake system which would stick out of the hood.
Yes I was bored
What do you think?
this is the first design, a new hood and you would have the air filter right after the MAF sensor right there so cold air would go directly to it.
and here is the second more like muscle car look, you would have a special design of air intake system which would stick out of the hood.
Yes I was bored
Re: Ram Air system
GruppeM are specialists in this area and manufacture ram air systems for a mutlitude of cars, although I doubt they cover the Crossfire.
The following website maybe of some use.
GruppeM Inc.- PRODUCTS - RAM AIR SYSTEM
The following website maybe of some use.
GruppeM Inc.- PRODUCTS - RAM AIR SYSTEM
Re: Ram Air system
In theory, it would work. The only thing I'd be concerned with is the short path to the MAF with all that turbulence... might end up with a very irregular airflow and negligible overall performance increase.
According to the shape of the car though, wind certainly collects there in abundance:
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According to the shape of the car though, wind certainly collects there in abundance:
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Re: Ram Air system
Originally Posted by JHM2K
According to the shape of the car though, wind certainly collects there in abundance:
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Actually Musclefan, if you enlarge this photo you can see a cowl induction would work far better than most any scoop application. As I've posted before, scoops are mostly cosmetic, and the biggest reason I never chose to make mine functional.
Look closely at the 8 ribbons of smoke in the slipstream going over and under the car. Stream#1 goes under, stream#2 goes over the hood but seems to disperse (or disappear at the base of the windshield) into the cowl vent? Stream #3 clearly shows the gap of "Dead Air" that engulfs the entire car as it glides inches above the roof, and demonstrates why forward facing scoops need to be "above" the dead air to actually function properly.
Here's a good thread on cowl inductions, just don't kill the messenger for where it comes from.
Cowl induction for cold, ram air for the Si? - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum
I do believe Forum member HDDP first experimented with it. Or had plans to do so.
Actually Musclefan, if you enlarge this photo you can see a cowl induction would work far better than most any scoop application. As I've posted before, scoops are mostly cosmetic, and the biggest reason I never chose to make mine functional.
Look closely at the 8 ribbons of smoke in the slipstream going over and under the car. Stream#1 goes under, stream#2 goes over the hood but seems to disperse (or disappear at the base of the windshield) into the cowl vent? Stream #3 clearly shows the gap of "Dead Air" that engulfs the entire car as it glides inches above the roof, and demonstrates why forward facing scoops need to be "above" the dead air to actually function properly.
Here's a good thread on cowl inductions, just don't kill the messenger for where it comes from.
Cowl induction for cold, ram air for the Si? - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum
I do believe Forum member HDDP first experimented with it. Or had plans to do so.
Last edited by +fireamx; 01-20-2010 at 09:21 PM.
Re: Ram Air system
Originally Posted by +fireamx
Actually Musclefan, if you enlarge this photo you can see a cowl induction would work far better than most any scoop application. As I've posted before, scoops are mostly cosmetic, and the biggest reason I never chose to make mine functional.
Look closely at the 8 ribbons of smoke in the slipstream going over and under the car. Stream#1 goes under, stream#2 goes over the hood but seems to disperse (or disappear at the base of the windshield) into the cowl vent? Stream #3 clearly shows the gap of "Dead Air" that engulfs the entire car as it glides inches above the roof, and demonstrates why forward facing scoops need to be "above" the dead air to actually function properly.
Here's a good tread on cowl inductions, just don't kill the messenger for where it comes from.
Cowl induction for cold, ram air for the Si? - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum
I do believe Forum member HDDP first experimented with it. Or had plans to do so.
Last edited by Musclefan21; 01-20-2010 at 09:23 PM.
Re: Ram Air system
just another thought, since our air filters are on top or our engines and there are two of them, why could'nt you make two cold air intakes that would hang down and scoop air from under the car. i have not thought of this in any great depth yet so please do not be too critical about this. i think it would work and eliminate the problems associated with running tubing thru the radiator support. water would not be a problem thanks to gravity. it would only be limited in size/dia. by the available space around the engine which has to be more than the small holes that are available in the radiator support. this just came to me after seeing the pics of the smoke line in the pic used earlier in this thread. no matter what anyone says our cars are
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When I altered the CAI design of needswings to make the dual inlet to reduce the pressure losses with other designs, I considered all other approaches, including the cowl. There was no filtering room available and the front of the radiator had as much ram pressure as you could get, I measured it to be about 1inch of water collumn and that is not much gain overall. Ease of installation and service / filtering made the difference for my approach. Symmetry also made the design flow well for the eye also. Enjoy, W Dy