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Old 01-14-2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MARK_UK
Topgear (british motoring show) just featured the Crossfire. Clarkson was driving a Red LHD Manual and said these things about it

:shock: The back looks like a dog doing a s**t
:cry: The manuals 1st gear jumps out
:cry: Makes smooth roads bumpy
:cry: Steering wheels too large
:cry: No feel in the steering
Auto even worse
:cry: Cheap interior
:cry: Thirsty
:cry: No boot space
:roll: Too expensive buy an RX-8

Plus the other two presenters aggred.

I hope knowone I know saw it :cry:
Anyone that suggests to buy an rx8 is a complete dipsh!t. Thats why we had to start the colonies mate.
 
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Old 01-17-2010 | 10:26 PM
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The back looks like a dog doing a s**t I have to agree. It's kind of annoying. Though no one ever makes this connection unless you tell them

The manuals 1st gear jumps out This problem in auto is really annoying. Minus the interior, the transmission would be my first thing to swap out.

Makes smooth roads bumpy This happens when you're used to driving Bentleys and Ferraris everywhere.

Steering wheels too large Have to agree too.

No feel in the steering As the bumpiness, this happens when you're used to driving supercars all day.

Auto even worse See the one about 1st gear.

Cheap interior God I hate how cheap the interior is. It's so obvious cheapo Chrysler had a big hand in making it.

Thirsty Not quite sure what he means?

No boot space I don't think you should be worried about trunk space when buying a car like this.

Too expensive buy an RX-8 This comment is now null and void.


On a side note, if this car were still $40k, these comments would be pretty important. Now that you can get the car for under $15k, these remarks probably wouldn't wiegh too heavily on your purchase decision.
 
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Old 01-18-2010 | 08:02 AM
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I don't need or want any bullshit publisher telling me about a car. I have the intelligence and skills to determine what I need to know after experiencing the vehicle. I inspected and drove the Crossfire Roadster. I bought it. It's red, the top comes down and it has a manual gearbox. Power and handling exceed my needs. That is my bottom line. Gary
 

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Old 01-19-2010 | 03:43 PM
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Nothing written by Clarkson is particularly surprising. The crossfire, overall, is a compromised design. In order to really pull off both the looks and design, the car should have been built from scratch--similar to the viper. The problem is that chrysler had nothing that really lent itself to a premium performance car at the time. Benz was the clear choice, but with their lack of attention to real performance outside of the AMG cars, the vehicle was doomed. I think Benz did the best they could with what they had, but the focus never really dealt with the feel and performance of the car. As a result, it's a great highway cruiser and fairly practical for a two seater. Maintenance requirements for the car are fairly basic as well. All of these are great for the daily driven sports car. What chrysler-benz did a poor job of was giving the car the special feel that it deserved. It's like the difference between say buying a honda civic and adding parts to give it performance similar to an M3 vs just buying the M3. Benz/Chrysler basically tried to throw on some parts to give the car that extra sporty feel missing in the R170. That didn't go over all so well for some people--clearly!

I think for many journalists, it was clear that dynamics clearly betrayed the beautiful lines of the Crossfire. The other cars that competed with the the crossfire were much more focused on the performance. The crossfire had to deal with scraps when it should have been made into a mini-vette. I may not want an RX-8, but the Z4 coupe is much more fun and sporting to drive than the crossfire. I like the crossfire, primarily because of its faults and it's relative level of practicality, but when it comes to being a sports car, it's just not as good a sports car as it's competitors.
 
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Old 01-19-2010 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidFire
The back looks like a dog doing a s**t I have to agree. It's kind of annoying. Though no one ever makes this connection unless you tell them

The manuals 1st gear jumps out This problem in auto is really annoying. Minus the interior, the transmission would be my first thing to swap out.

Makes smooth roads bumpy This happens when you're used to driving Bentleys and Ferraris everywhere.

Steering wheels too large Have to agree too.

No feel in the steering As the bumpiness, this happens when you're used to driving supercars all day.

Auto even worse See the one about 1st gear.

Cheap interior God I hate how cheap the interior is. It's so obvious cheapo Chrysler had a big hand in making it.

Thirsty Not quite sure what he means?

No boot space I don't think you should be worried about trunk space when buying a car like this.

Too expensive buy an RX-8 This comment is now null and void.


On a side note, if this car were still $40k, these comments would be pretty important. Now that you can get the car for under $15k, these remarks probably wouldn't wiegh too heavily on your purchase decision.
I don't understand the cheap interior. I find the interior in the SRT and Limited to be rather nice and comfortable. Infact if you look at the Crossfire's leather and then looked at the leather in a Town and Country you'd know that this isn't cheapo leather. I do dislike to arm rest on the door, but I can't think of how they would've done it differently and made it more comfortable.
 
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Old 01-19-2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AllEuro
Nothing written by Clarkson is particularly surprising. The crossfire, overall, is a compromised design. In order to really pull off both the looks and design, the car should have been built from scratch--similar to the viper. The problem is that chrysler had nothing that really lent itself to a premium performance car at the time. Benz was the clear choice, but with their lack of attention to real performance outside of the AMG cars, the vehicle was doomed. I think Benz did the best they could with what they had, but the focus never really dealt with the feel and performance of the car. As a result, it's a great highway cruiser and fairly practical for a two seater. Maintenance requirements for the car are fairly basic as well. All of these are great for the daily driven sports car. What chrysler-benz did a poor job of was giving the car the special feel that it deserved. It's like the difference between say buying a honda civic and adding parts to give it performance similar to an M3 vs just buying the M3. Benz/Chrysler basically tried to throw on some parts to give the car that extra sporty feel missing in the R170. That didn't go over all so well for some people--clearly!

I think for many journalists, it was clear that dynamics clearly betrayed the beautiful lines of the Crossfire. The other cars that competed with the the crossfire were much more focused on the performance. The crossfire had to deal with scraps when it should have been made into a mini-vette. I may not want an RX-8, but the Z4 coupe is much more fun and sporting to drive than the crossfire. I like the crossfire, primarily because of its faults and it's relative level of practicality, but when it comes to being a sports car, it's just not as good a sports car as it's competitors.
They did an AMG one too!
 

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Old 01-20-2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirteendog
I don't understand the cheap interior. I find the interior in the SRT and Limited to be rather nice and comfortable. Infact if you look at the Crossfire's leather and then looked at the leather in a Town and Country you'd know that this isn't cheapo leather. I do dislike to arm rest on the door, but I can't think of how they would've done it differently and made it more comfortable.
I do have to give in that the leather seats and wheel are awesome. It just annoys me that here is a car that is rock solid mechanically yet most things in the interior feel like they'll break if you touch them when you're angry.
 
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Old 01-20-2010 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidFire
I do have to give in that the leather seats and wheel are awesome. It just annoys me that here is a car that is rock solid mechanically yet most things in the interior feel like they'll break if you touch them when you're angry.
Well I guess you want a car built to US Army specifications less the bullet proof glass and blast resistant body. Bare metal and rivets showing is not my cup of tea even if its not painted olive drab.
 
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Old 01-21-2010 | 02:35 PM
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If you guys think the interior of the XF is cheap then you should try the interior in a Japanese car. There's nothing wrong with the interior of the XF, its far superior to anything I'm used to.
 
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Old 01-21-2010 | 07:58 PM
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I dunno about the Japanese cars. Some, yes (plus most cheap American cars have craptastic interior), but my brothers 2000 Celica interior is on par if not better than the XF in durability.
 
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