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Old 05-11-2009 | 03:17 PM
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I was reading somewhere on the net that Audi is often imitated but never duplicated. If that is the case, then how come the new TT has a pop up spoiler that looks like the Crossfire. I know Crossfire isn't the first. Porsche has them but they look different. They aren't actual panels of the car that stick up. I saw a Bentley model that had a spoiler that looked like the crossfire. Now the Audi TT has them.

I saw a new Audi TT this past weekend. Nobody around on a 70 MPH strip of highway. No exit/entrance ramps for miles in the middle of country land. He was messing with me and the Crossfire was keeping up. It looked like he had an AMG logo or something on the back (couldn't tell because I was mostly in front of him). He punched it and I punched it.... but the most he would do is 120 before he backed off. I just took off.

I think most people see a Chrysler logo and assume it can't handle the high speed like a German car. They think Hemi power but not good at high speeds. Nothing is better than the element of surprise.
 
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Old 05-11-2009 | 05:10 PM
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AMG is a Mercedes performance partner. Audi and Mercedes are competitors. I believe the Audi 3.2 TT may come in a supercharged version -- not familiar with the logo. If it was a stock 3.2, they put out about 265hp which edges the Crossfire, but the quattro system sucks a lot of that off.
 
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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
I was reading somewhere on the net that Audi is often imitated but never duplicated. If that is the case, then how come the new TT has a pop up spoiler that looks like the Crossfire. I know Crossfire isn't the first. Porsche has them but they look different. They aren't actual panels of the car that stick up. I saw a Bentley model that had a spoiler that looked like the crossfire. Now the Audi TT has them.

I saw a new Audi TT this past weekend. Nobody around on a 70 MPH strip of highway. No exit/entrance ramps for miles in the middle of country land. He was messing with me and the Crossfire was keeping up. It looked like he had an AMG logo or something on the back (couldn't tell because I was mostly in front of him). He punched it and I punched it.... but the most he would do is 120 before he backed off. I just took off.

I think most people see a Chrysler logo and assume it can't handle the high speed like a German car. They think Hemi power but not good at high speeds. Nothing is better than the element of surprise.
Volkswagen had pop-up spoilers before the crossfire. volks=audi=porsche=bentley
 
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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
Volkswagen had pop-up spoilers before the crossfire. volks=audi=porsche=bentley
Don't forget Lamborghini is part of the family as well
 
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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
Volkswagen had pop-up spoilers before the crossfire. volks=audi=porsche=bentley
Seems like the Scirocco had a pop up spoiler way back in the early 80's.
 
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Old 05-12-2009 | 08:30 AM
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I believe Porsche with the 964 and VW with the Corrado were the first german brands to have a speed sensitive spoiler. The current TT is available in 3 flavors, if you will. There is the "base"' model, which is powered by a 200hp 2.0t motor--identical to what is in the current GTI. A model up from there is the 3.2L VR6 (VW powered) 250hp TT, which has the same powertrain as a VW R32. The most recent addition to the family is the TT-S. The S version shares it's basic engine design with the base TT--2.0t, direct injection. However, the S model has a bigger turbo and a lot more power--~270hp IIRC. This motor is what is found in europe in the current Audi S3. The S badged audi's are kind of like the M or AMG cars for BMW or Benz. Though it seems like more and more, it's really the RS badged Audi's that compete with the other two performance badges. There are rumors of a TT RS, which is said to be equipped with a 2.5L 5-cyl turbo (similar motor to what is found in base model Golf/Jetta cars in the US). The big news on the TT front is that the VR6 model will no longer be available in the TT.

So, if you kept up with the TT, it definitely wasn't a TT-S. Likely a regular TT with a "quattro" badge in the rear? And if it was a TT-S, the guy likely wasn't really trying that hard. The TT is a nice car, but it's just too golf-like. I prefer the styling of the crossfire to be honest.
 

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Old 05-12-2009 | 11:19 AM
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Nothing beats the Crossfire. The Audi is nice and I give it credit.... but the Crossfire is nicer!
 
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