Hi all,

No really nice way to do this so I'll be straight forward. I hate airing my dirty laundry but desparate times call for desparate measures. I am not a scammer or deadbeat. Any member of the New England Xfire Club that truely knows me can attest to my integrity.

I have been out of work since December 1st of 2008. I have been struggling to keep up the payments on my Crossfire, house and other bills.

They came with a tow truck 3 weeks ago but I was able to keep the car. Scarey!

I know forum members have helped out other members before and I am soliciting help from anyone how wishes to donate funds. Please don't feel that any amount is too small. My paypal address is as follows; stangrant@comcast.net

My addrees is; PO Box 93, Carver, MA 02330.

At this point I can not promise when or how to pay back anyone. I am not sure when I'll be back to work and the bills still come in.

Thank you kindly and God Bless!
Stan

 

not trying to be a **** to you but i think the crossfire should be last on your mind and you should focus on your house bill, food and finding a job.

you could turn the car in an pick up a beater for a $1,000 and use that till you secure a job if they foreclose your car you are still without a car but now a hit on your credt history. I say sell it and settle up or try to make payments on it.

I sold my acura 1993 with 190,000 miles to a buddy for $1800 6 months ago and if i had to get rid of my crossfire i would pick that car back up from him for like $1000-$1200 use it for 6 months and sell it for like $500. total cost of ownership is $80-$100 per month. my crossfire payment is around $260 a month.

i too lost a very very nice job i had lined up with Sprint Nextel after graduation and due to the economy they canceled my job before i even started. I am now applying for a job for a 30% pay cut but need to due to hard times.

either way i feel your pain and hope you the best

 

All good points.

I echo the sentiment and hope for the best but also recommend that you consider working with your bank to see if you can modify your payment schedule etc.


In the end as much as we love our cars, they are just that and your home food and other bills probably take priority. I am not sure if you have a family but they would be your top priority!

BTW what do you do, maybe someone here may also help with employment...

 

I'll buy your used Sprint Booster, that's one way to keep your car. Better off selling that SB before they repo it. Sorry to hear about your job loss, things will get better.

 

Hi all,
Thank for your suggestions. You all should know that I have been concentrating on paying the most important bills first which is why I am in the situation that I am in with the car. I have sold my motorcycle without any profit just to get out from under those bills.
I can not trade the Crossfire in for a cheaper car due to credit isuues and payoff. If I sell it or trade it, I will be upside down number-wise with it. I owe too much on it.
I also need it as my form of transportation to look for work because my jobs usually provided a service van for work.

A BIG THANK YOU to those who have or attempted to contribute !!

I have experience in Mortgage Bank, Training, Telecommunications, Management.


Stan

 

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Stan is a great guy who would help everyone he could while he was working! A little help would go a long way. I sent my money.

 

Stan:
I just sent you an amount I wish could be more but hope it will help you.
Instead of comparing hard line stories which WE ALL HAVE HAD. members could just send something without the intent of getting some of his last belongings from him. If you can't there is no need to say why, reasons are many when it comes to why we can't how about just saying I can! If we all just parked our Dream cars for one day the money this forum could rally in gasoline savings could help one of our own.
It may have taken a lot more guts to ask for help and being honest than a great deal of people can muster.
Come on people what have you got to lose? Is there one person here that couldn't send something? I know the answer to that is NO. Start at a buck, five, ten, twenty or $50. It can't hurt. I have been down and out, Flat Broke nearly on the street with literally nothing to eat and no where to turn. Is that where people need to be before we will offer them help?
If the next post you want to write is about some neat gimmic you just purchased for your Crossfire to go a little faster, think about it...
Good luck, Stan.
Mike "Montana Crossfire" Loftus

 

Thank you for your kind words and understanding !!

I am disappointed at the turn out. I was hoping to collect enough to at least pay one payment. Out of the several hundred that frequent this forum only 3 members stepped-up to help. Thank you gentlemen!

I helped a few years back when we all sent money to the woman who needed help to hang on to her car. I thought people would be more responsive. If everyone sent me just $1, I could probably cover a couple payments!

Also, if you do not have a Paypal account you can mail to address,

Stan Grant
PO Box 93
Carver, MA 02330

Thank you, Stan

 

Stan, I just sent you some... hope it helps!

Deb

 

Stan.... now why would you be dissapointed? You asked and some people gave. You are not happy with the results so now you have to make us all feel bad? I guess that is the bailout mentality of kids today... to expect people to just hand over everything. Everybody owes something to everyone! Guess what... we are all hurting financially. If I needed money I would be asking family members. Not people on forums I don't personally know. I didn't say anything the first time you asked. But now that I hear you complaining... well now I am saying something because I am tired of hearing this. I may get black listed for my thoughts... but I am sorry if I feel that way. This is a forum to talk about cars and get answers to question.... this is not a street corner for begging. If you wanted and were asking for a job... that is one thing and I would love to help you if I could. But asking for money is not the answer to your problems. Begging for money from strangers is degrading. I have more self respect and would never do that. I would rather sweep streets or work 5 dollars an hour jobs cleaning toilets than beg for money.

One day if I ever need help, I will not be asking people here in this forum.

 

Do you realize how very hard it must be for anyone to ask for help! It is humbling to say the least. When we are in need, I know we should consider asking family first, but family is often very judgmental and often hold money over your head, you'd Never hear the end of it.

I think it is great that he felt comfortable enough with the Crossfire group to ask. We are all on this planet together, we in the group share a common interest. We don't hesitate to spend $8 - $10 to see a movie or $50 on dinner or even give a homeless person a dollar or two. So give the man a break, at least he is trying to keep the thing we all adore so much.

Deb

 

Begging is the lowest form. If I were broke with no food or drink, I would rather eat scraps from a dumpster. I would rather work for 5 dollars an hour. You would not see me begging.

People may give a few bucks to beggers on the street but I don't. They are usually more rich than I am. How do I know this guy is not a scammer. He probably makes a living on charity contributions. If he was hurting so bad, why is he still on the internet paying for service? Why doesn't he sell his computer? That alone would get him a month or 2 on his car payment. I am a New Yorker and was always around beggers. They all wanted money but refused when I offered to buy them a meal. Anyone that gives money away that freely to a stranger is a fool.... no offense. I know in the south people are nice and help people. I appreciate that. But I don't appreciate the guilt and feeling of entitlement he has... like people are supposed to help him.

What I am complaining about is not the fact he is begging... otherwise I would have responded to this bum sooner. I am ticked off because this guy is "dissapointed" in the contributions. I guess we are now an entitlement society. Everyone feels they are owed something. I am upset with this poster because he has a lot of nerve saying he is "dissapointed".

Besides.... if you want to end a relationship fast, beg them for money!

 

Hey 07'! Boy you really like reading your own moronic words don't you?
Good for you, You have the high standards which put you in aclass of your own.
Do you really need to make a statement like this? Why didn't you do enough by just ignoring someone you may have had words with online in the past.
You are truly One self proclaimed **** to say anything that direct at someone the for all you know may indead be worthy of a little help.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SAYING "IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY SHUT UP"? oops forgive the paraphrasing.
You want to meet and maybe you could call me an ignorant smuck to my face since I was SO stupid to try and help someone that isn't doing as well as me...

 

Stan is a great guy who just happens to be down on his luck at this time. He is one of the founders of NEX and is always there when we have a GTG. There is no reason to try and put him down. The price of a cup of coffee from everyone would help him out. If you dont want to help stay out of the thread.

 

If everyone sent in $1 (less than a cup of coffee) imagine what it would help this member with Little to no sacrifice to you.

 

OK, before this gets ugly, if you don't want to help him, then don't. I suppose his words could be taken such that you might think he's not greatful since not many have given anything. Well, I am sure he is frustrated about his situation and trying whatever he can to survive. With that, I see both points, but we are all here because we share a love of our cars, so maybe, just once in awhile we should share a little love for one another. I can spare a few bucks for a fellow XF owner in need...I would do it for many of you, that I haven't met, and I can tell you,I certainly would for those I have met...so let's all calm down, move on to another subject. Stan I wish you best...it is tough for us all right now, many have lost a lot. Hopefully we won't lose our friendships on here...the good lord knows that has happened on here too much....just an 'ole guy's .02....

 

Thank you. You summed it up for me. I am frustrated with my situation and dissapointed. Maybe some members will never have to face this situation and I hope they are continuously blessed. I expected both positive and negative comments.

07 doesn't understand my situation, financially, now or before I was laid-off. He doesn't know what bills I have to pay or how much income I have lost with the loss of my job. Yes, I believe his comments are inappropriate but he is entitled to his opinion. Apparently he didn't read all the post in this thread. At some point in his life he will have to swallow his pride to survive.

Everyone should know I have exhausted all other avenues to help solve my situation. Yes, many Americans are struggling. I do not have rich relatives or rich friends that can just give me money. I have always had to work for what I have. It was with a heavy heart that I turned to the forum members for help. I had to swallow my pride and do it!

I didn't mean to come off as if I didn't appreciate the help. I am very thankful for the donations I have received thus far. I guess I was just too optomistic when I started out on this venture.

I am truely sorry if I have offended anyone with my comments, it was not my intent to shame anyone, I was just venting.

Thank you again!! Stan

 

good fortune to you Stan...it was just taken the wrong way, I chose to ignore it, I knew you must be frustrated...so hang in there, stay positive, and a job will come your way soon. Negativity shows, just like your post....this will not help your situation, so chin up, positive thoughts...something will open up for you...and the rest of you be thankful for what you have...regardless of how you got it...and lets move on...

 

The last thing Stan needs right now is advice on how to handle his money.

He asked.

You can help or you can not help.

Advice does not help.

Sanctamony does not help.

There isn't a person here that couldn't be in the same boat soon. Literaly words to live by.


Hope it gets better for you Stan.

Keep the faith and keep us posted.


franc