Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by The Beep
Bankruptcy will save the company. They need to cut the huge union saleries and huge union benny's. Just think, someone's getting paid $26 hr plus an enormous benny package for installing windshield wipers on a car.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by apkano
In all honesty, it's a combination of a lot of things. Do the exec's make too much money, yes. Have the union employees got pretty much everything they wanted for years, yes. Does government interference screw things up, yes.
The only car they make now that I would really want to own is the challenger. 2 doors, 6-speed, choice of 2 different V-8s. They must not want to sell these really bad though, you can get the employee pricing and all the other incentives on every other piece of crap on the lot, not the challenger. Wake up Chrysler, not everybody wants a 4-door sedan with automatic transmission! Or, God forbid, a minivan. Guess I'll be driving the crossfire a little while longer.
Last edited by doc440; 04-27-2009 at 10:22 PM.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by The Beep
Bankruptcy will save the company. They need to cut the huge union saleries and huge union benny's. Just think, someone's getting paid $26 hr plus an enormous benny package for installing windshield wipers on a car.
If Chrysler had designed, built and marketed the best cars over the last 3 decades, they wouldn't be in this mess. But they didn't. Japanese car companies have unions, too - but they're not going bankrupt. It's thanks to the Prius, Civic, Accord, Camry, 3, etc. Americans got sick of second best, and we can't afford charity. If the Crossfire wasn't a MB under the skin, I never would have bought one.
We know what happens to the resale value of Chryslers. Unions are to blame for that, too?
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
And it won't be because Obama saves them either.... he is too busy running around rubbing elbows with communist leaders and dictators of other countries when he should be home helping the USA.
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Whose load do you swallow? They're making a fool of you.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by Mediacritic
Seriously. Which is your favorite? Hannity? Limbaugh? Ingraham? Beck? Coulter? Boortz? Savage?
Whose load do you swallow? They're making a fool of you.
Whose load do you swallow? They're making a fool of you.
You just can't reason with a guy like you. Must be from all those years of smoking dope in the 60's. Keep taking the drugs... I can tell they are working well for you.
By the way... I know how much you love obama. I love the flyby in NY yesterday. Real smart move! You made a real good choice of president.
Last edited by blackcrossfire07; 04-28-2009 at 05:19 AM.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Well not to **** anyone off but i dont care if chrysler goes down. I know that parts and things will be hard to find but think about how much of our cars are mercedes. If we can't get them from chrysler just go to mercedes and get them. They sometimes are cheaper over there any ways. Also has anyone ever tried to get something fixed from chrysler, Forget about it. There service is one of the worst i have ever seen. One of my best friends had a 1990 bmw 5 series that went in once with a broken transmission and came out in a week and guess what it was acutally fixed. He didn't have to bring it to 4 different dealers where not one could even fix it. I can't wait untill my warrenty is up so i can stay away from the dumb chrysler tech and all there bullshit on why the can't fix anything. One last thing has anyone had any rust on there car that they can't get fixed. I had my car at the dealer yesterday and they said they can't fix the rust because it has not perferated the body yet. Thats like having a broken arm and going to the doctors and them saying they can't fix your broken arm untill it fall off.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by doc440
Don't forget, what has Chrysler produced in recent years that anybody really wanted? They quit producing 2-door cars after the 1997 or 1998 neon. Yeah, I know, there was the sebring convertible, which was just a re-badged mitsusushi gallant. They resurected the charger as a 4-door that you still can't get with a manual transmission, great car otherwise, but I still would not buy one. There is no such thing as a 4-door sports car(charger, SRT-4 neon, and SRT-4 hyundai-mitsu caliber). Also don't forget that most of the line-up was also running four cylinder hyundai engines starting in the 2006 model year (in mitsu bodies ) Yes, I am a die hard mopar guy, but the "transportation appliances" that Chrysler has been cranking out for 10+ years are more at home in a rental car lot than in most people's driveways. This, and this alone is the reason they are in the dire straights they are in, and myself and thousands of others have not bought a new Chrysler product since the mid 1990s.
The only car they make now that I would really want to own is the challenger. 2 doors, 6-speed, choice of 2 different V-8s. They must not want to sell these really bad though, you can get the employee pricing and all the other incentives on every other piece of crap on the lot, not the challenger. Wake up Chrysler, not everybody wants a 4-door sedan with automatic transmission! Or, God forbid, a minivan. Guess I'll be driving the crossfire a little while longer.
The only car they make now that I would really want to own is the challenger. 2 doors, 6-speed, choice of 2 different V-8s. They must not want to sell these really bad though, you can get the employee pricing and all the other incentives on every other piece of crap on the lot, not the challenger. Wake up Chrysler, not everybody wants a 4-door sedan with automatic transmission! Or, God forbid, a minivan. Guess I'll be driving the crossfire a little while longer.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by cassidyrj1
Well not to **** anyone off but i dont care if chrysler goes down. I know that parts and things will be hard to find but think about how much of our cars are mercedes. If we can't get them from chrysler just go to mercedes and get them. They sometimes are cheaper over there any ways. Also has anyone ever tried to get something fixed from chrysler, Forget about it. There service is one of the worst i have ever seen. One of my best friends had a 1990 bmw 5 series that went in once with a broken transmission and came out in a week and guess what it was acutally fixed. He didn't have to bring it to 4 different dealers where not one could even fix it. I can't wait untill my warrenty is up so i can stay away from the dumb chrysler tech and all there bullshit on why the can't fix anything. One last thing has anyone had any rust on there car that they can't get fixed. I had my car at the dealer yesterday and they said they can't fix the rust because it has not perferated the body yet. Thats like having a broken arm and going to the doctors and them saying they can't fix your broken arm untill it fall off.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by patpur
I'm reading that Chrysler has just reached a deal with their creditors that should prevent them from having to file bankruptcy.
- Negotiate a reduction of labor/ benefit/ wage with UAW.
- Receive concessions from creditors.
- Enter into a partnership with Fiat.
It’s looking promising.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Let's not forget that Fiat has already failed in the US before by selling junk. I personally have always wanted to own American cars but I keep getting burned. Americans car companies just can't seem to build a car as good as the Japanese and Germans. I feel like the Amercan car companies just take advantage of our desire to buy American and sell us junk. I have owned many American made cars the last being a 2007 CTS (a camery is built much better). I am done with American cars and would not have a bought a Crossfire if was actually an American car. About the only place on earth where you can go and see everyone driving American cars is Detroit. I don't think the people there have any clue what is going on in the world when it comes to cars. Some friends came to Dallas from Detroit and were in shock to see all the foreign cars. I personally could care less what happens to GM or Chrysler, there are much better built cars out there to chose form.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Sadly thats the view of too many and that is ruining North America, we have to reverse these job losses or your children and grandchildren will be forced to leave the country to get work as second class citizens in the area we now call the third world.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.
PS, maybe the people in Detroit are trying to keep their jobs a little longer by buying North American cars, obviously they cannot rely on you to help them. I will help them and the Canadian workers as much as I can, but they have to take a wage and benefit cut, with less spent on these money can be spent on upgrading the vehicles.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.
PS, maybe the people in Detroit are trying to keep their jobs a little longer by buying North American cars, obviously they cannot rely on you to help them. I will help them and the Canadian workers as much as I can, but they have to take a wage and benefit cut, with less spent on these money can be spent on upgrading the vehicles.
Last edited by onehundred80; 04-28-2009 at 02:09 PM.
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by onehundred80
Sadly thats the view of too many and that is ruining North America, we have to reverse these job losses or your children and grandchildren will be forced to leave the country to get work as second class citizens in the area we now call the third world.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.
Now you have touched on the bigger point!
Re: Fearing the end, Chrysler fans flock to museum
Originally Posted by onehundred80
Sadly thats the view of too many and that is ruining North America, we have to reverse these job losses or your children and grandchildren will be forced to leave the country to get work as second class citizens in the area we now call the third world.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.
If we do not manufacture major items, we will lose the knowledge and knowledge is power.