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WARNING SIDE SKIRTS "BUYER BEWARE" - AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
so much for direct replacement...we supposedly had a car to be fitted to, and somehow it all ended up with Dan...Dan never was in the picture, and I don't know when Dan came into this venture, but there was supposed to be a car available for fitment, so this product would be direct replacement, not bolt over, not the a cheap ricer bolt on...I will not cheapen my car guys, these will be sold to whoever wants them for whatever I can get...I knew it to be a risk, but Dan and his group were never in it as far as I knew. Quality seems to be an issue...and I don't think Jon or you Rudy like the product, so why would we....if there isn't a fix, ship them, I'll find someone to work on them...or I'll be the first to shove them up Dan's @ss....when ever I get the pleasure...venting...makes me feel better...but this is BS...
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Please vote and add your comments.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
Last edited by FP; 05-19-2009 at 07:18 PM.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
a comment from my body shop owner, says it best, is that when installing these kinds of products, he likes to work directly with the manufacturer so when there is a fitment problem, he has his option to ship them back for fitment...he doesn't like to have to make something work, it should work, when he recieves it. He will bill per hr while trying to make them look factory, but won't know that until he sees them...his guess will be 3 hrs a side...unless he has to add material, then more hrs + materials. At $110 an hr, this can add up...obviously, I won't pay that rate, but half that is still too much to make them work....
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
a comment from my body shop owner, says it best, is that when installing these kinds of products, he likes to work directly with the manufacturer so when there is a fitment problem, he has his option to ship them back for fitment...he doesn't like to have to make something work, it should work, when he recieves it. He will bill per hr while trying to make them look factory, but won't know that until he sees them...his guess will be 3 hrs a side...unless he has to add material, then more hrs + materials. At $110 an hr, this can add up...obviously, I won't pay that rate, but half that is still too much to make them work....
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Had I known our old friend Dan was involved in this, I never would have invested. I suspect many others feel the same way. Why was his involvement concealed? <guess I just answered my own question>
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
I did not order but I do have a suggestion. Get someone from the company to come out and fix it.
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Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
I usually do not complain about doing a little additional work to make something work the way I want it to, but this is a whole different ball game. There was plenty of time and money invested in this ordeal for a near direct replacement part to be made. JR spent the money to purchase factory SLK AMG skirts to be sent down and retro-fitted for prototype. I spoke with Jonny multiple times on the phone before this project started trying to find skirts from any dealer who had them. If the facility who took on this project knew there was going to be an issue, they should not have taken on the project in the first place. I refuse to put that on my car.
Thanks to the guys at JRconcepts,
Bryan Tracy
Thanks to the guys at JRconcepts,
Bryan Tracy
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Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by FP
Please vote and add your comments.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
A pessimist might say: Not being up on all the issues with "Dan" who appears to be one of the principals of the project; is there fraud involved?
Using our money to finance a project and perhaps intentionally completing the project in a manner that will be unsatisfactory to the financial backers...makes an inexpensive, planned modification to repair the problem... and after alienating all the financial backers, who demand and receive refunds of all the money... An unscrupulous businessman then sells them for higher price on EBay and never had to put up any money himself?
Is this possible? Didn't I read somewhere these popped up on Ebay?
Using our money to finance a project and perhaps intentionally completing the project in a manner that will be unsatisfactory to the financial backers...makes an inexpensive, planned modification to repair the problem... and after alienating all the financial backers, who demand and receive refunds of all the money... An unscrupulous businessman then sells them for higher price on EBay and never had to put up any money himself?
Is this possible? Didn't I read somewhere these popped up on Ebay?
Last edited by parawxman; 05-19-2009 at 08:10 PM.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by bhays
Had I known our old friend Dan was involved in this, I never would have invested. I suspect many others feel the same way. Why was his involvement concealed? <guess I just answered my own question>
We're just as unhappy (if that would be the right word to use) about all of this as everyone else on here.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
the prototype was the key here...if you can make a direct replacement, the project moves forward...if you can't then the projects dead. It's that simple. My friend use to build boats, you wouldn't believe how many failed molds sit on the back of his lot until he reached perfection on the mold he wanted. Its part of the process of building a very good product, vs a cheap immitation...for a quick buck...this I know Jon nor Rudy was after...too bad...this old boy is peeved to no end...trust me...
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Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Im on my way to the hotel sit tight for an earfull I'm not gonna type it on this iPhone
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by ImportLabSRT
I agree 100% with this idea... if he thinks the quality is good enough, let him sell them.
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Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by Mr. F
and let unsuspecting Ebay buyers deal with the poor fit? especially when they may end up here afterwards and find out they were duped...
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by rcompart
After initial fitment of the sideskirts, I personally am rather displeased with the overall design of them. I want everyone to post on here their opinion in this thread, not via PM or email as this is all information that both Dan and the company that manufactured these need to see and I want it all public record.
The fitment of these sideskirts have a few issues, some of which I feel are very detrimental to the overall satisfaction of everyone that has purchased them. Some people may not find these things objectionable while others will agree with me that this is simply not acceptable and needs to be dealt with accordingly.
The first problem with the sideskirts comes from the actual manufacturing of them. The mold was made in a way that the sideskirt needs to be pushed up against the chassis in a rather aggressive manner. It does not follow the same design of the original sideskirt as you can see in the image below. This causes the sideskirt to have a natural tendency to try and push away from the vehicle either on the top and sides, the bottom or both. This is also a problem from the standpoint that these need to be fitted prior to paint and when removed from the vehicle will take on their original shape which will again have to be bent to be isntalled. I equate this with instead of being an "L" shape, it's is more like a "(" shape that you squish together to make it into an "L" shape.
The second problem with these is the lack of the mounting tabs on the front of the sideskirt to attach it to the car. Dan has insisted that this isn't a problem and some of you may agree but Jon and myself find this is a very important part that is necessary to the proper fitment of the sideskirts and that the solution Dan wants to implement to correct this is simply not a viable option considering how these were supposed to be made. Below you will see images of the mounting tabs on the factory sideskirt vs the lack of them on the other one, how the lack of these tabs affects the fitment of the sideskirt and what Dan has proposed to fix this problem.
Now per Dan's request because he feels that all this is completly acceptable, I want everyone's opinions posted to this thread. Yes, no or indifferent, I want to know. Don't hold back and be honest as I'm not going to be offend by what is said.
The fitment of these sideskirts have a few issues, some of which I feel are very detrimental to the overall satisfaction of everyone that has purchased them. Some people may not find these things objectionable while others will agree with me that this is simply not acceptable and needs to be dealt with accordingly.
The first problem with the sideskirts comes from the actual manufacturing of them. The mold was made in a way that the sideskirt needs to be pushed up against the chassis in a rather aggressive manner. It does not follow the same design of the original sideskirt as you can see in the image below. This causes the sideskirt to have a natural tendency to try and push away from the vehicle either on the top and sides, the bottom or both. This is also a problem from the standpoint that these need to be fitted prior to paint and when removed from the vehicle will take on their original shape which will again have to be bent to be isntalled. I equate this with instead of being an "L" shape, it's is more like a "(" shape that you squish together to make it into an "L" shape.
The second problem with these is the lack of the mounting tabs on the front of the sideskirt to attach it to the car. Dan has insisted that this isn't a problem and some of you may agree but Jon and myself find this is a very important part that is necessary to the proper fitment of the sideskirts and that the solution Dan wants to implement to correct this is simply not a viable option considering how these were supposed to be made. Below you will see images of the mounting tabs on the factory sideskirt vs the lack of them on the other one, how the lack of these tabs affects the fitment of the sideskirt and what Dan has proposed to fix this problem.
Now per Dan's request because he feels that all this is completly acceptable, I want everyone's opinions posted to this thread. Yes, no or indifferent, I want to know. Don't hold back and be honest as I'm not going to be offend by what is said.
At the time I did not know that he was associated in any way with this forum as a member, or this project. I received mine today.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
man, I don't know...I'll leave it up to my body shop...he's very good, but I don't want to have to do that kind of thing to my car...in order to make them work...they should've been close...they obviously didn't hold shape when taken out of the molds...there could have been a lot things that caused that...just have to wait until I see them I guess...but I won't put on something that looks like a cheap bolt on...or stressed to point they want to break the fastener holding them on...skirts take a lot of hits when running in the rain and such....let alone the stress of the car flexing, even though it doesn't flex much, it still moves...
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by FP
Please vote and add your comments.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
I say make Dan return all the money, and let him sell them on his INTERNET site. He's the culprit here.
Last edited by BORICAN; 05-19-2009 at 09:01 PM.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
After looking at the photo's of Dan's car I noticed "for the sake of the photo" they were in position on his CF and it doesn't look like there is any stress. Enough to pull the masking tape off anyway. It seems to me if you had to force or stretch these to fit very aggressively the tape would not hold the panel to the body. I won't have time to dry fit mine until Friday. I'll find out then.
On the other hand if they are distorted in terms of shape, then it's not going to happen.
As I stated before when customizing a car with fiberglass panels you always have to do some bondo work and grinding. It's just a fact of life. Of course within reason.
These are things that need to be found out before panic sets in.
On the other hand if they are distorted in terms of shape, then it's not going to happen.
As I stated before when customizing a car with fiberglass panels you always have to do some bondo work and grinding. It's just a fact of life. Of course within reason.
These are things that need to be found out before panic sets in.
Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
I did not pre-order these, but did anyone think it would come out differently than it did. I mean, waiting all these months, all of those promises, and all of that deposit money. These should have been made, fitted, and THEN sold. Buyer beware. This is bad for all of you, but if by chance you get them to work, after lots of money spent, then maybe they might look great.