Sprint Booster - Negatives
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by oxycodone
That is exactly what happens: you're at full throttle at somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 pedal depression.
PAULW (aka The CHUMP)
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
For your daily driving thrills, the sprint booster is leaps and bounds better than the throttle reset. I would say that a throttle reset does about 10% of the improvement of the sprint booster. With my sprint booster, it is almost impossible to accelerate moderately without practice. Under light pedal movement, it feels like my car has 800 horses. Accidental tire slippage under what "feels like" light throttle is common.
Last edited by SRT6nTulsa; 08-27-2008 at 10:35 AM.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by SRT6nTulsa
For your daily driving thrills, the sprint booster is leaps and bounds better than the throttle reset. I would say that a throttle reset does about 10% of the improvement of the sprint booster. With my sprint booster, it is almost impossible to accelerate moderately without practice. Under light pedal movement, it feels like my car has 800 horses. Accidental tire slippage under what "feels like" light throttle is common.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by PAULW
The thing about building a knock off is this, Boulekos Dynamic found a need, did the homework, built and marketed a product that works and actually it is not an unfair price, no other manufacturer has introduced a device for any brand of car to correct drive by wire throttle lag, at least none that I have found.
Food for thought.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by Hairydalek
There’s a thread on this forum which included a report on what the Sprint Booster actually does.
Clicky
The actual PDF can be read here: http://frontiernet.net/~dbipes/sprintbooster/SprintBooster.pdf
Not having had a sprint booster fitted, I can’t agree or disagree with the findings. However, it does appear to “deaden” the last 1/3 of pedal travel, which could be disconcerting (ie the pedal peaks at 2/3 of its usualtravel). My guess is that you could physically stop the pedal where it peaks to give you the “it’s on the floor” feel.
I think I’d rather look to other software mods to up the BHP if I wanted some extra kick (remove the limitations built into the ECU for example). According to this document, Sprint Booster does not improve acceleration, rather it gives the illusion by reducing the point at which the throttle peaks.
Clicky
The actual PDF can be read here: http://frontiernet.net/~dbipes/sprintbooster/SprintBooster.pdf
Not having had a sprint booster fitted, I can’t agree or disagree with the findings. However, it does appear to “deaden” the last 1/3 of pedal travel, which could be disconcerting (ie the pedal peaks at 2/3 of its usualtravel). My guess is that you could physically stop the pedal where it peaks to give you the “it’s on the floor” feel.
I think I’d rather look to other software mods to up the BHP if I wanted some extra kick (remove the limitations built into the ECU for example). According to this document, Sprint Booster does not improve acceleration, rather it gives the illusion by reducing the point at which the throttle peaks.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by Cal_Cobra
As an engineer I'm more interested in what exactly makes it tick. I used to build a lot of home brew computer projects, electronic synthesizer projects, etc., so I enjoy the builder/tinkering hobby aspect of electronics. It might well be possible to improve upon the design (manual or otherwise programmed adjustments would be a welcome addition in my book, perhaps you don't want 2/3 throttle equal to WOT, or?).
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
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Sorry, I read it, and forgot about it. No offense yo you, it's an ADD thing. Thanks for the reminder.
With that in mind, how is it "linearizing" (or linearizing the perception of) the throttle at low inputs? I find that I get too little power, then too much power, at low inputs. Would the SB just make it feel like too much power, then WAY too much power, with the same inputs? I think that's where I'm missing its effect.
With that in mind, how is it "linearizing" (or linearizing the perception of) the throttle at low inputs? I find that I get too little power, then too much power, at low inputs. Would the SB just make it feel like too much power, then WAY too much power, with the same inputs? I think that's where I'm missing its effect.
Last edited by DesertFox; 08-27-2008 at 12:37 PM.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by oxycodone
Increasing air flow (on both the intake and exhaust) will help. Changing your fuel map to accomodate the increased air flow is much more important.
I was being facetious in my previous post - there are many on this board who have stuck some aluminum tubing on the intake, routed it next to the engine and fitted a cone filter on the end and called it a "Cold Air Intake" - which I personally find hilarious... while that system may get you increased airflow, it certainly won't have a lower temperature than the stock setup.
I was being facetious in my previous post - there are many on this board who have stuck some aluminum tubing on the intake, routed it next to the engine and fitted a cone filter on the end and called it a "Cold Air Intake" - which I personally find hilarious... while that system may get you increased airflow, it certainly won't have a lower temperature than the stock setup.
But to actually gain a cooler air temp, insulation would be needed for sure.
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by Cal_Cobra
As an engineer I'm more interested in what exactly makes it tick. I used to build a lot of home brew computer projects, electronic synthesizer projects, etc., so I enjoy the builder/tinkering hobby aspect of electronics. It might well be possible to improve upon the design (manual or otherwise programmed adjustments would be a welcome addition in my book, perhaps you don't want 2/3 throttle equal to WOT, or?).
Food for thought.
Are there any ECU reprograms to "enhance" the drive by wire experience ?
Food for thought.
Are there any ECU reprograms to "enhance" the drive by wire experience ?
Now having said that if we could add an old style throttle linkage and move the TPS from the foot pedal to the engine then the computer and I would both be happy!
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by DesertFox
Sorry, I read it, and forgot about it. No offense yo you, it's an ADD thing. Thanks for the reminder.
With that in mind, how is it "linearizing" (or linearizing the perception of) the throttle at low inputs? I find that I get too little power, then too much power, at low inputs. Would the SB just make it feel like too much power, then WAY too much power, with the same inputs? I think that's where I'm missing its effect.
With that in mind, how is it "linearizing" (or linearizing the perception of) the throttle at low inputs? I find that I get too little power, then too much power, at low inputs. Would the SB just make it feel like too much power, then WAY too much power, with the same inputs? I think that's where I'm missing its effect.
It takes practice, but that's a GOOD thing!
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by maxcichon
Post #42. SRT6Tulsa sums it up pretty well. It does take some getting used to. I really used to be frustrated by the lethargic way it would accelerate, say, from a traffic light. A slow build-up like "The Perfect Storm". Now I want to be the first in line so I don't rear-end the fella' in front of me.
It takes practice, but that's a GOOD thing!
It takes practice, but that's a GOOD thing!
Re: Sprint Booster - Negatives
Originally Posted by +fireamx
I have no personal experience with the SB, or any other performance enhancing products mentioned (my car is mechanically 100% stock). But I do believe Valkryderguy knocked nearly 1/2 a second off the documented (Automotive Magazine's Road Test) 1/4 mile time of 15.18 sec. for an automatic, with nothing more than a CAI installation.
I don't know how much H.P. is needed to go a 1/2 a second faster in the 1/4 mile, but for the price of a NeedsWings "CAI", I think most "drag racers" would call it a bargain.
I know I would have when I use to drag race.
I don't know how much H.P. is needed to go a 1/2 a second faster in the 1/4 mile, but for the price of a NeedsWings "CAI", I think most "drag racers" would call it a bargain.
I know I would have when I use to drag race.
My first 11 runs were all 15.01 to 15.18 with the stock intake.
Then I installed the Needswing CAI and my next 11 runs were all in the high 14's and my best time was 14.78.
I do have a sprint booster and I do think it opens the throttle faster than even putting it to the floor without one.
If it is only worth $2 or not I like it and that is what really matters here.
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Originally Posted by pgmikes
Here is a "Sprint Booster technical white paper".
Is it worth the 275 bucks..........................Probably not !
Is it worth the grin factor..........................Oh hell yeah !
We can just agree to disagree and be on with it.
Thats just my Dos Centavos
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Originally Posted by Stogey
We've all seen this study countless times. The argument remains !
Is it worth the 275 bucks..........................Probably not !
Is it worth the grin factor..........................Oh hell yeah !
We can just agree to disagree and be on with it.
Thats just my Dos Centavos
Is it worth the 275 bucks..........................Probably not !
Is it worth the grin factor..........................Oh hell yeah !
We can just agree to disagree and be on with it.
Thats just my Dos Centavos