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Old 04-13-2009 | 09:15 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n26QrvC3Vw8

ill be going back to get tuned soon, just got my new injectors and smaller pulley, so ill be at about 435whp in a week or so..
quick clip here..ill have some good vids up soon at the track and etc....been making a tape with my camcorder just gotta transfer to a disk to get on the computer..

im rockin the z now and never looked back, maybe i had alot of flaws with my xfire but i just love my z great all around car..hope the xfires are holding up well for the community here and getting more mod friendly
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 09:20 PM
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The reason I'm leaning towards the xfire is because of its incredible value and im pretty limited financially speaking at this point in my life. I also like how rare the crossfire has become. I agree the Z is a great car as well. Does anybody know any specific mechanic in Orange County that they have had positive experiences with that can check out a crossfire properly???
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 09:32 PM
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well thats cool for u guys, does the car rev past 5k? speedo and everything work, or dashboard lightup like a christmas tree,..so is it just like totally turning it off or are there any flaws to it?
TylerX, the ABS, BAS, and ESP light stay on, (I don't even notice them) and everything else works like normal.
I had several Z cars a 100 years ago and loved all of them, except the 1984-300 ZX. The new ones are so much better, no argument there.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I'd love to have a new 370 Z, but not enough to give up my X.
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 09:42 PM
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TylerX, the ABS, BAS, and ESP light stay on, (I don't even notice them) and everything else works like normal.
I had several Z cars a 100 years ago and loved all of them, except the 1984-300 ZX. The new ones are so much better, no argument there.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I'd love to have a new 370 Z, but not enough to give up my X.

yeah man the 370z is pretty nice and they are taking mods very well, just intake and exhaust they are making more than 300whp without any tuning..thats not bad for n/a..
 
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Old 04-13-2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosehead9oc
The reason I'm leaning towards the xfire is because of its incredible value and im pretty limited financially speaking at this point in my life. I also like how rare the crossfire has become. I agree the Z is a great car as well. Does anybody know any specific mechanic in Orange County that they have had positive experiences with that can check out a crossfire properly???
got any mercedes or chrysler dealerships? im not from around there, but might be a best bet
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 01:11 AM
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I was wondering what other things I personally could look for on the vehicle.

Things I'm already keeping my eye on.

1. Door seal rust
2. 1 to 2 shifting
3. tire tread

I cant really think of anything else at the moment. Anything else you guys recommend I look for? Making the purchase soon!
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 11:55 AM
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I'd say that the s2k and crossfire are about as far apart on the spectrum of sports cars as one can get. It's like comparing a crossfire to a lotus elise. They really are designed for 2 different purposes. The crossfire is vastly more refined, numb, and comfortable than the s2k. But it also has significant midrange torque and doesn't require you to really rev the car out. The s2k will be harsher, but also more connected to the road, so it will have a far more aggressive feel. I think this really has to due with the philosophies of honda and mercedes. Mercedes isn't really known for cars that are terribly engaging to drive. They are more like modern day muscle cars. Honda, on the other hand, is known for feel and connection to the road---a certain lightness on its feet.

They really are two different ways to doing things, but you kind of have to decide what you like. I personally like the more GT-type personality of the crossfire versus the more intense sports car personality of the s2k. The s2k would make a fantastic sunday driver or track car, while the crossfire makes a superb anytime car.

It's kind of interesting really, this past weekend I put about 400 miles on a Mazda 5, which is a small sporty little van. The first thing I noticed, and it was significant, was how fantastic the steering was compared with the crossfire. It also seemed a bit lighter on it's feet because it wasn't nearly as refined. It was kind of fun to drive actually. But I think this really demonstrates to me just how different something like an s2k and a crossfire can really be. The crossfire drives like a mercedes----solid, planted, vault-like but kind of numb and not overally communicative with the driver. You need to drive one and find out if you are ok with those sorts of qualities in a car marketed as a sports car.
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosehead9oc
I was wondering what other things I personally could look for on the vehicle.

Things I'm already keeping my eye on.

1. Door seal rust
2. 1 to 2 shifting
3. tire tread

I cant really think of anything else at the moment. Anything else you guys recommend I look for? Making the purchase soon!
The SRT....and where to sign.....nuff said!
 
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Old 04-18-2009 | 11:43 PM
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Anybody know where I can get a solid extended warranty from Chryler for a proper price? I'm thinking to purchase one on top of the existing powertrain warranty. Any ideas?
 
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Old 04-19-2009 | 12:13 AM
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research and enjoy

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ded+warranties


i have been in couple s2k but never driven them first hand but do know what they are capable of. the crossfire is so much more luxurious where the s2k is so much more sports car like. i have no issues driving the crossfire all year long and enjoy how comfortable and quiet it is yet able to stay planted and really nice amount of torque. My old acura vigor was no comparison for the interior cabin noise compared to the crossfire. the crossfire is built like a tank and very quiet and comfy ride with all the noise padding they put in the car and the underbody. it is a mercedes sports car but they put the emphasis more on mercedes the luxury feel versus the sports car aspect of it. i added some more sound deadening to the car but probably no more than 50-60sq ft and it has made the interior so quiet i can hear no road noise but just my engine and exhaust reving and screaming when i want it to.

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Old 04-19-2009 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Moosehead9oc
Anybody know where I can get a solid extended warranty from Chryler for a proper price? I'm thinking to purchase one on top of the existing powertrain warranty. Any ideas?
I just purchased my first crossfire with the limited lifetime warranty that covers most mahor components. I purchased the car in Ohio but live in NC so I am going to a local chrysler dealership that i have a long standing relationship with this week to discuss the warranty more in depth so i will get back to you when i find out.
 
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Old 04-19-2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ///SilverSaphRT6
The SRT....and where to sign.....nuff said!
Um...you can't shift from 1st to 2nd in an SRT.
And tiptronic doesn't count.
 
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Old 04-19-2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GVFire
I just purchased my first crossfire with the limited lifetime warranty that covers most mahor components. I purchased the car in Ohio but live in NC so I am going to a local chrysler dealership that i have a long standing relationship with this week to discuss the warranty more in depth so i will get back to you when i find out.
Trey, is that the 7yr powertrain warranty that you got? Are you the 2nd owner?
 
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Old 04-19-2009 | 10:14 AM
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Moose,

Here is my opinion. I have had many performance cars over the years, my most recent being a 2005 G35 Coupe 6MT with the 298hp VQ that I purchased brand new. I thought this car was awesome, until it started having oil consumption issues. It is a common problem and engines have been replaced under warranty. I decided that I didn't want to go through all that and I shouldn't for the money I paid for the car. I test drove tons of similar cars including a brand new (then) 2007 S2000. I thought I would love the car, but it felt gutless. It definitely isn't and being a sport bike rider, I know about using the revs, but I like torque and easy drivability. I really wished that I liked the S2000 better, but I just couldn't pull the trigger. Then, I thought about a car that I always wanted, but could not afford the original $48K + price tag. I discovered that these cars were selling at ridiculously low prices due to the badge, economy, and etc. The car was of course the Crossfire SRT6. I liked the standard ones also when they came out, but the lack of power turned me off. I've always known what really lurked beneath the skin. Everything is Mercedes. The interior is far superior than any Chrysler I've ever seen. The SRT drivetrain is AMG, the supercharged engine uses forged internals, and was assembled by hand at the AMG factory. The SRT6 is the fastest, most powerful car I've ever driven (I also have a 380 hp 65 Chevelle, but is a big, heavy car)!

So, my advice is this: If you're going to get a crossfire, get an SRT6 otherwise you will regret it! Sorry, standard Crossfire guys, this guy would miss his S2000 too much with a regular Crossfire, but wouldn't even think about it with an SRT. You would have a stiffer suspension, unbelievable power, exclusivity (only 2016 produced), and full respect once the pedal hits the floor. There are very few cars on the road under 100 grand that can take an SRT6. S2000s are no match for an SRT6. You can still find them with under 10k miles for under 17 grand. SRT6 or keep shopping.

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Old 04-20-2009 | 07:45 AM
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Moose,


So, my advice is this: If you're going to get a crossfire, get an SRT6 otherwise you will regret it! Sorry, standard Crossfire guys, this guy would miss his S2000 too much with a regular Crossfire, but wouldn't even think about it with an SRT. You would have a stiffer suspension, unbelievable power, exclusivity (only 2016 produced), and full respect once the pedal hits the floor. There are very few cars on the road under 100 grand that can take an SRT6. S2000s are no match for an SRT6. You can still find them with under 10k miles for under 17 grand. SRT6 or keep shopping
I would think this is his decision to make. If he drives an s2k, he may appreciate rowing gears and pushing a car to make power. The srt6 is a great car, no doubt. Before I got my na coupe I came on here and asked about the cars. A few people like yourself told me to only consider an SRT6 as I would be disappointed with the lack of power of the coupe. The problem with this logic is that there is ALWAYS something faster. If you are always chasing speed/ppower, to me, you are more likely to be disappointed in the end. I chose the na coupe in the end because I enjoy the technical aspects and feel of rowing through my own gears. I would go so far as to say that a sports car isn't a sports car without a manual transmission. I would rather have a Z06 for instance over a Nissan GTR primarily because of the manual transmission in the vette.

There is also a bit of fun to be had with rowing through the gears of a na crossfire precisely because it isn't as quick as an SRT6. I mean I can bang through the first few gears and often not be much over the speed limit. As the saying goes, it's better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. That's often how I look at it--unless I wanted something I could also take to the track on a semi-regular basis. ANd in that case, I likely wouldn't look at an SRT6 either. The auto would kill it for me on a roadcourse. Part of the fun/challenge is trying to get it to all work well at the same time.

Enjoy your SRT6 as it's a fantastic car, but IMO, it's not automatically better than a na just because it has more power. The automatic is the achilles heal of the SRT6 IMO. And plus, TVT Tuning offers some tuning kits that up the power on the na crossfire to levels that are a bit higher than stock, so if you want a bit more power on the na car, there are some options.

To the OP, I say make sure you spend enough seat time in both variants of the crossfire and see what fits your personality and driving style better.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 10:45 AM
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You guys do realize that it's been over 10 months and Moosehead still hasn't bought a car yet. I purchased my first house in less than half that time.
 
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Old 04-20-2009 | 10:43 PM
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You guys do realize that it's been over 10 months and Moosehead still hasn't bought a car yet. I purchased my first house in less than half that time.
LOL!

As for the rowing through the gears poster, this is the first automatic I've ever owned and I don't miss the stick at all! This autostick is awesome as far as automatics goes. And yes, the power of the SRT far outweighs the fun of shifting. It is that much of a difference!
 
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Old 04-21-2009 | 06:00 AM
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I would think this is his decision to make. If he drives an s2k, he may appreciate rowing gears and pushing a car to make power. The srt6 is a great car, no doubt. Before I got my na coupe I came on here and asked about the cars. A few people like yourself told me to only consider an SRT6 as I would be disappointed with the lack of power of the coupe. The problem with this logic is that there is ALWAYS something faster. If you are always chasing speed/ppower, to me, you are more likely to be disappointed in the end. I chose the na coupe in the end because I enjoy the technical aspects and feel of rowing through my own gears. I would go so far as to say that a sports car isn't a sports car without a manual transmission. I would rather have a Z06 for instance over a Nissan GTR primarily because of the manual transmission in the vette.

There is also a bit of fun to be had with rowing through the gears of a na crossfire precisely because it isn't as quick as an SRT6. I mean I can bang through the first few gears and often not be much over the speed limit. As the saying goes, it's better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. That's often how I look at it--unless I wanted something I could also take to the track on a semi-regular basis. ANd in that case, I likely wouldn't look at an SRT6 either. The auto would kill it for me on a roadcourse. Part of the fun/challenge is trying to get it to all work well at the same time.

Enjoy your SRT6 as it's a fantastic car, but IMO, it's not automatically better than a na just because it has more power. The automatic is the achilles heal of the SRT6 IMO. And plus, TVT Tuning offers some tuning kits that up the power on the na crossfire to levels that are a bit higher than stock, so if you want a bit more power on the na car, there are some options.

To the OP, I say make sure you spend enough seat time in both variants of the crossfire and see what fits your personality and driving style better.

I would place this post in my signature if I had enough room!
I've noticed a certain amount of (perhaps unintentional) smugness from SRT owners in all of the Mopar forums I visit. Whenever someone is thinking about getting a new car, or their current car is giving them trouble, or they just need a new set of tires, there is always someone who will weigh in and say that what the OP needs is an SRT. No explanation, just the feeling that you aren't worth the time unless you have the SRT version of the vehicle.

I didn't buy the Crossfire for power. I have another vehicle for that. I bought the Crossfire because I wanted a small coupe, they were an incredible value at the time, and I loved the styling ever since I saw the concept vehicle. I never even considered the SRT. I wanted a stick, I get a silly little kick out of the retractable spoiler (I'm not the only one - just scroll up and check out the forum banner), and I didn't want to spend an hour scrubbing between 20 spokes per wheel every time I washed the car.

When it comes to cars, it's not always about the power. Sometimes, it's about the style that fits you best.
 
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Old 04-21-2009 | 07:42 AM
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Trey, is that the 7yr powertrain warranty that you got? Are you the 2nd owner?
I believe it is the bumper to bumper warranty that covers something like 5007 components have not been able to get by the local dealership to discuss it more in depth with them but will probably do so later today so i will keep you posted. I still have two years left on the original powertrain warranty so i'm not even sure if I'm going to keep the extension.
 
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Old 04-21-2009 | 09:06 AM
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I didn't buy the Crossfire for power. I have another vehicle for that. I bought the Crossfire because I wanted a small coupe, they were an incredible value at the time, and I loved the styling ever since I saw the concept vehicle. I never even considered the SRT. I wanted a stick, I get a silly little kick out of the retractable spoiler (I'm not the only one - just scroll up and check out the forum banner), and I didn't want to spend an hour scrubbing between 20 spokes per wheel every time I washed the car.

When it comes to cars, it's not always about the power. Sometimes, it's about the style that fits you best.
I wish other people would realize this. But for some people just the act of getting thrown into the back of their seat when accelerating in a straight line is enough. In those cases, sure, and SRT6 is the best option. I personally prefer cars that are well rounded in how they do things. In the price range I buy my cars in, that usually means that the vehicle will take a hit in ultimate performance in order to give some attention to other aspects.

Truth be told though, if the SRT6 was available with a manual, I'd probably own one. Along the same vein, if Mercedes cars in general had more manual transmission options I'd be far more likely to consider them over an Audi or BMW.

At the end of the day, I suppose where you are coming from is important. For guys who are used to high hp cars or drool over hp numbers vs anything else, the SRT6 would be hard to pass up. For me, the majority of the cars I've owned in my life had <200hp, so 215hp isn't a disappoointent. If I'm going to buy a high horsepower car, it better offer all the things I enjoyed about the lower powered cars I;ve owned. Power by itself isn't enough for me to compromise what I enjoy.

I will admit however, to REALLY liking the C63 which is available only with an automatic. Those front seats are absolute perfection! If I had 65k or so, I may just have to sell out!
 


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