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this car produces the most "head turners" than any other car under $50k.

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Old 05-15-2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
It really isn't that special. A unique body style maybe but unless you go "menacing silhouette" style they just end up looking like a cheap tarted-up sport car rentals.

Anybody that knows anythng about cars knows they are bargain priced, and any active member of this forum knows that 90% of the fanbase would mount Walmart tires and use regualr unleaded until they could afford pinstripes.
Sounds like someone for got to take his happy pill this morning. hehehe
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 10:56 AM
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Heh. Actually, I got to drive my previous car for the first time in months last night.

Now I'm lamenting over how much I'll need to spend to get the Crossfire to be that happy again.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
I guess the point i'm trying to make is that feeling "baller" in a Crossfire is pretty sad.
Speak for yourself...
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 11:45 AM
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I think it's pretty bad that people can get this car for only $14.000, this car is more worth! Beside that, I paid 29.000 Euros for my car, which is $ 40.000 – and it’s NOT an SRT. That hurts, if you know people drive the same car like you, but almost 3 times cheaper; I didn't know that the crossfire is that cheap in the US. But I purchased mine in 2006 in Europe. If the price keeps falling, the "head turners" will stop, unfortuanlly.
 

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Old 05-15-2008 | 11:51 AM
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The reason this car is considered a "deal" and in some cases a "steal" is because it's worth far more than you have to pay for it.

If it was worth exactly what everyone paid for it, then it wouldn't be a deal or a steal.

Either way, this car is worth a lot more than I paid for it. And I'm happy with that.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
I've had everything from what looked like a Sopranos cast member asking me if it was a Porsche to a 10 year old girl jamming the brakes on her bike to yell "nice car" from her driveway.

...Still rides like an Amish buggie with marshmellow steering.

EDIT: I guess the point i'm trying to make is that feeling "baller" in a Crossfire is pretty sad.
Wow. If you don't like the Crossfire, just go join the Mustang or 350z forum. They always need such wonderful enthusiasm.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:39 PM
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I bought my Crossfire because it was a small, manual, good looking car with a lifetime powertrain and 100K mile bumper to bumper warranty for $20,000. But this thing has some SERIOUS performance flaws for what is considered a "sports car". I don't consider it a bargain as much as I consider it's $30,000 MSRP to be absurd.

Maybe with the 10 grand I "saved" I can do what those German pansies should have done straight from the factory.

Higher ratio / Rack & pinion steering
NO stability management
A proper mechanical limited slip diff
Higher rate lower springs
High performance shock absorbers
A power curver that doesn't drop off like it's being strangled
Heavier sway bars (minus the plastic links and pillow soft rubber bushings)
A shifter that isn't sloppy as a Harlem grandmother
A proper alignment
Shed 400lbs
Substantially longer final gear

Until then it just feels like a milquetoast compromise. I'm suprised it doesn't come with a specialized compartment for your Metamucil.



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Ok, I don't really think this lowly of the car. I'm just trying out for the "Elite Alienationist" award.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
Higher ratio / Rack & pinion steering
NO stability management
A proper mechanical limited slip diff
Higher rate lower springs
High performance shock absorbers
A power curver that doesn't drop off like it's being strangled
Heavier sway bars (minus the plastic links and pillow soft rubber bushings)
A shifter that isn't sloppy as a Harlem grandmother
A proper alignment
Shed 400lbs
Substantially longer final gear

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Ok, I don't really think this lowly of the car. I'm just trying out for the "Elite Alienationist" award.
Um you win, can you stop now?

By the way, do you race the car or are you more of a bench tuner? Because when I was racing this car on a 3 mile road course, it wasn't bad at all. In fact, I'd have to say it was very, very good.
 

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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
Ok, I don't really think this lowly of the car. I'm just trying out for the "Elite Alienationist" award.
You won...
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:53 PM
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Um you win, can you stop now?
I have to check my blood pressure.

Originally Posted by sonoronos
Based on that list, you should have bought an S2000.
Heh. That thing doesn't get UNstrangled until 8,000rpm. The rising sun's four-wheeled weedwhacker.

EDIT: And my tastes are closer to a Triumph TR4 with an SRT4 motor squeezed in it.
 

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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:56 PM
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Sooo.... back to the topic at hand...
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 01:02 PM
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Had at least 3 people ask me if the wing makes a difference.
One girl prefered my Crossfire to the track ready Lotus Exige I was drooling over at an Applebees.
Countless looks and turns driving on main street
One guy yelling at me when I accelerated briskly up a hill next to where he was walking (Magnaflow glasspack scared him).
And plenty of eager competition on everthing from highways to the backwood twisties.

Yeah, it gets attention.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
I bought my Crossfire because it was a small, manual, good looking car with a lifetime powertrain and 100K mile bumper to bumper warranty for $20,000. But this thing has some SERIOUS performance flaws for what is considered a "sports car". I don't consider it a bargain as much as I consider it's $30,000 MSRP to be absurd.

Maybe with the 10 grand I "saved" I can do what those German pansies should have done straight from the factory.

Higher ratio / Rack & pinion steering
NO stability management
A proper mechanical limited slip diff
Higher rate lower springs
High performance shock absorbers
A power curver that doesn't drop off like it's being strangled
Heavier sway bars (minus the plastic links and pillow soft rubber bushings)
A shifter that isn't sloppy as a Harlem grandmother
A proper alignment
Shed 400lbs
Substantially longer final gear

Until then it just feels like a milquetoast compromise. I'm suprised it doesn't come with a specialized compartment for your Metamucil.



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Ok, I don't really think this lowly of the car. I'm just trying out for the "Elite Alienationist" award.
Do people consider the XF a "sports car"? I always thought of it more as a "grand touring" car. Everything about the car makes more sense that way.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sonoronos
By the way, do you race the car or are you more of a bench tuner? Because when I was racing this car on a 3 mile road course, it wasn't bad at all. In fact, I'd have to say it was very, very good.
I concur. I have taken mine to Willow Springs twice and I was VERY impressed at how well it kept up. It certainly does not have the tactile feel of a Porsche or a Lotus, but for 19K I am very pleased with the performance.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 01:56 PM
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By the way, do you race the car or are you more of a bench tuner?
I built and tuned my own (grand total $12,000) toy out of an early 90's FWD granny 4 door sedan in a pole barn on a two post lift in my back yard. It had twice the wheel horsepower and felt much more surefooted and responsive than the Crossfire. I was a little fatigued having to drive such a visceral car to work every day and sold it to my girl of 6 years as a toy (She'll be racing it at SDAC in Detroit this year).

So yes, I'm a little disappointed at how tame this car is for $20,000 and I miss the high pitched ear-assault of that T3/T04E 50 trim (Think SRT4 + Greyhound bus), but I'll get over it.
 

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Old 05-15-2008 | 02:27 PM
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I've owned several Porsches, Mercedes, and Caddilacs but this car beats them easily in the head turning department. I mean its no contest.

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Old 05-15-2008 | 03:37 PM
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My wife and I pulled into a parking lot the other day with the top down and the tunes crankin' and these two 30 sumthin' women turned and you could see the word WOW on one of their mouths.We cracked up because it happens often, especially from younguns who aren't afraid to give big smiles and praise.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 04:05 PM
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. It certainly does not have the tactile feel of a Porsche or a Lotus, but for 19K I am very pleased with the performance.
Honestly. I took a ride in the passenger side of a few Miatas on the track. I swear on buttered toast that the miatas felt like they were going to rip apart into a million pieces going into turn 1. That was at around 100 mph.

Don't get me wrong. The miatas are quick quick cars. They were easily beating cars with two times the horsepower. But the XF is quiet going around at full throttle and 100 mph.
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
I built and tuned my own (grand total $12,000) toy out of an early 90's FWD granny 4 door sedan in a pole barn on a two post lift in my back yard. It had twice the wheel horsepower and felt much more surefooted and responsive than the Crossfire. I was a little fatigued having to drive such a visceral car to work every day and sold it to my girl of 6 years as a toy (She'll be racing it at SDAC in Detroit this year).

So yes, I'm a little disappointed at how tame this car is for $20,000 and I miss the high pitched ear-assault of that T3/T04E 50 trim (Think SRT4 + Greyhound bus), but I'll get over it.
I think you need a second (or third) car, opticon
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 05:19 PM
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I wish the same thing. This would save me countless hours of mind-numbing traffic patrol duty.

Another one I wish we didn't have to enforce...the "almost stop" stop. You know, the one where the car slows way down at a stop sign, but never truly stops. I HATE citing those, and everyone seems to do it.
I can certainly understand the mind-numbing part of it but if you don't like stopping cars that almost stop but fail to do so by a wee margin then why do it? I'm sure your supervisor isn't watching you every moment.
I've been pulled over twice for not coming to a complete stop: one 'cause I had to pull forward to see around a Giant Detroit Chrome Mountain (also known as a Suburban) & didn't completely stop with my front end hanging out in traffic (no fine, just a warning but I was p.o.'ed nonetheless) & once here in town by one of the locals. Turns out he used to work with my wife & after having some laughs he just walked away. In the later case I must've moved a millimeter or so at the stop sign. I mean, come on......
The choice is yours, you can be the nit-picker or not.
 


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