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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:39 PM
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OK, I know the infamous Warp Speed Button is usually only discussed in the "hallowed halls" of the SRT forum, but I've got a question.
Since it is a kick down switch for the automatic transmission, does the automatic equipped Limited models come with their own button, and if so, what do they call it?
Pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject, but I drive a 6 spd. and never actually looked at any Lmited models with auto's to see for myself.
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:44 PM
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My 04 has the kickdown button as well.
It's autostick and when you press the pedal all the way down you can feel the click of the button and the car shifts to the lowest optimal gear for acceleration.
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:46 PM
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hallowed halls of the srt forum??? what is that supposed to mean?
 
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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:59 PM
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hallowed halls of the srt forum??? what is that supposed to mean?
They think their "sports cars" are fast


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Old 05-13-2008 | 09:18 PM
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They think their "sports cars" are fast

They are, not that the Limiteds are slow.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:15 AM
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They all go 150mph and will get ya arrested.
How quickly / fast you can achieve this is the only difference.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:15 AM
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I've always been a bit confused about the interest in this topic. Many cars with automatics went to this after the industry started moving away from carbuerators to fuel injection and computer control. My 1990 535i has one. It's an 18 year old car.

It's simply a switch to tell the computer that you want full, open throttle acceleration in the lowest gear that doesn't over-rev the engine. Nothing magical about it.

I do the same thing in my manual Roadster by downshifting one or two gears and burying the pedal into the carpet.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
OK, I know the infamous Warp Speed Button is usually only discussed in the "hallowed halls" of the SRT forum, but I've got a question.
Since it is a kick down switch for the automatic transmission, does the automatic equipped Limited models come with their own button, and if so, what do they call it?
Pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject, but I drive a 6 spd. and never actually looked at any Lmited models with auto's to see for myself.
Most, if not all of the throttle by wire systems will have this button. I know my girlfriends Jetta has it.

I didn't feel one on the Solstice I test drove, but I really didn't feel the pedal on that Pontiac POS anyway. I think it could use a spring on the go pedal. The salesman told me it was throttle by wire. If it's not then the throttle pedal spring is too weak on those cars.

JMO.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:31 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, I think the late 50's early 60's Chrysler products with automatics also had a kick down button on the floor. Anyone else know about this?
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
If I'm not mistaken, I think the late 50's early 60's Chrysler products with automatics also had a kick down button on the floor. Anyone else know about this?
Cool! I didn't know my car was all "retro"!
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
They think their "sports cars" are fast


roadster with a stick
Post up your timeslips for your NA crossfire so we can compare them to the srt6 "sports cars" and we will see how much faster yours is.

I think a lot of cars with auto transmissions have them, some do not though. My last car did not have one.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
If I'm not mistaken, I think the late 50's early 60's Chrysler products with automatics also had a kick down button on the floor. Anyone else know about this?
Chuck, If I'm not mistaken, all Chrysler Torqueflite 3 spd transmissions in the late 50's, 60's, and into the 70's had a "Kick Down Rod" connected to the carb linkage and the tranny. When adjusted correctly it would down shift the trans into 2nd gear, and even into 1st if the speed was low enough. All it took was moving the linkage far enough to engage the kick down rod that was set at a pre-determined spot on the carb linkage.
I'm not sure when Chrysler switched over to an electrical switch to activate its passing gear.

I assumed the Limited Crossfire Automatics had the button too, but it seemed like it was only mentioned when talking about SRT's and their "Warp" button.
I guess I was mostly wondering if any Limited XF owners had affectionately bestowed upon their own personal automatic button some sort of name.
But nobody has responded to that part of the question.

To answer Mrphotomans question. According to what most automotive magazines report from their road test of both cars, on average a SRT6 is approximately 1.5 sec's faster than a NA 6spd XF in the 1/4 mile, and nearly 2 sec's faster than an automatic. Of course these #'s are for 'Box Stock" cars. (We all know how fast SRT's with mods can be).
 

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Old 05-14-2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Chuck, If I'm not mistaken, all Chrysler Torqueflite 3 spd transmissions in the late 50's, 60's, and into the 70's had a "Kick Down Rod" connected to the carb linkage and the tranny. When adjusted correctly it would down shift the trans into 2nd gear, and even into 1st if the speed was low enough. All it took was moving the linkage far enough to engage the kick down rod that was set a a pre-determined spot on the carb linkage.
I'm not sure when Chrysler switched over to an electrical switch to activate its passing gear.
I think your right, thanks
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VALKRYDERGUY
They all go 150mph and will get ya arrested.
How quickly / fast you can achieve this is the only difference.
So the 6s can get to 150 MPH faster AND get the drivers arrested quicker. We just got you regular Crossfire owners beat when it comes to speed.
 
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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:02 PM
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So the 6s can get to 150 MPH faster AND get the drivers arrested quicker. We just got you regular Crossfire owners beat when it comes to speed.

Well.......... Uh.........Yeah?

But just wait till we get our electric super chargers! Then will show ya


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Old 05-15-2008 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, what Franc said.. {whispers}.... psst Franc, when are we getting those?
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:00 PM
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Yeah, what Franc said.. {whispers}.... psst Franc, when are we getting those?
Whispers
(When maverick cleans up the mess in his garage and finds the damm thing)
Now shut up. I want to blow the doors off an SRT and leave the owner wondering "What the heck was that?"

"Must be a sports car cause that sucker is FAST!"

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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:14 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
If I'm not mistaken, I think the late 50's early 60's Chrysler products also had a kick down button on the floor. Anyone else know about this?
That was the starter......!!!! (Only for those of us old enough to remember such a thing...LOL).
 
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Old 05-15-2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Chuck, If I'm not mistaken, all Chrysler Torqueflite 3 spd transmissions in the late 50's, 60's, and into the 70's had a "Kick Down Rod" connected to the carb linkage and the tranny. When adjusted correctly it would down shift the trans into 2nd gear, and even into 1st if the speed was low enough. All it took was moving the linkage far enough to engage the kick down rod that was set at a pre-determined spot on the carb linkage.
I'm not sure when Chrysler switched over to an electrical switch to activate its passing gear.

I assumed the Limited Crossfire Automatics had the button too, but it seemed like it was only mentioned when talking about SRT's and their "Warp" button.
I guess I was mostly wondering if any Limited XF owners had affectionately bestowed upon their own personal automatic button some sort of name.
But nobody has responded to that part of the question.

To answer Mrphotomans question. According to what most automotive magazines report from their road test of both cars, on average a SRT6 is approximately 1.5 sec's faster than a NA 6spd XF in the 1/4 mile, and nearly 2 sec's faster than an automatic. Of course these #'s are for 'Box Stock" cars. (We all know how fast SRT's with mods can be).
Perhaps this will help

SRT-6 = OMG
Limited = omg

This will define the phenomenon withoout hurting the fragile ego's.

By the way my Barracuda had the rod to which you referred. The quaint term for it of the time was "passing gear" There were no electronics involved so the term "Flash" refered to the Blur my 'Cuda appeared to be when I passed you.

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