That would be nice! Hopefully the CAN BUS realtime lines are not difficult to hack with the right equipment.

 

I dont get why everyone is so afriad of killing there abs? this is the second car (out of over 15) I have owned with abs. I cant stand it. Its nearly gotten me into a fender bender twice with this car and a few with the other car (03 focus). ABS doesnt make your car stop faster, actually you can stop faster if you know how to properly modulate your brakes. All it does is "pump" the brakes really fast leaving the dumby that doesnt know how to drive the traction he needs to swirve without hopefully losing control. In a straightline brake on ice/snow or sand/gravel covered roads (lots of snow/ice in MI where Im from, and lots of sand over the roads in EL Paso TX, where Im at now) non abs will stop tens of feet shorter then abs. YEESH! scared cats. traction control is also for dumbies that cant drive too.

 

further more I just disconnected the wire going to the fuse for the traction control (04 xfire, 6speed) and it was effective in turning off the whole system, so I can burn out, drift, donuts, ect. No need to touch the yaw sensor.

 

Car insurance is based, among other things, on the safety devices fitted to the car. By shutting these devices off you are invalidating the insurance, if found you could find yourself liable to any claims for damage or personal injury.
These cars can record many events and the little black box may tell a tale that you do not want anyone to see.

 

There are several systems involved. One of the books I have goes into quite a bit of detail. I am on the road right now but will dig it up when I get home.

My sense from what I recall is that if you want to completely disable the system, you are going to create problems. One part of the circuit is the rear brake balance control - it does not use a proportioning valve like the old days - its controlled by the system you want to disable. The result is you will probably have problems locking up the rear brakes unexpectedly. That could be a problematic... If I recall correctly there are other systems that when disabled would be missed in a bad way.

I will post the info next week when I get back.

 

bahh, fear mongerers. Ill let ya know after the next track day just how it works. Forget all the stupid book crap. One thing I have learned over the years is that computers never seem to work as planned or desired.

 

Actually, Some owners have experienced strange problems from just pulling fuses.

Defeating the systems BAS/ESP, are not for the average driver, or driving situations.

I do agree, if one does shut it down completely, more control is given to the driver whom understands what to do without it.

 

Just in case, where do we send flowers?

 

Wow, don't know what to say. I staked my whole career on books and computers. Works for me so far... Good luck with the track day... What am I saying? I don't believe in luck...

Seriously, computers or not, go understand proportioning on rear brakes - if you're going hot into corner, you want your brakes to work properly....

 

Here's the high-level explanation. The details occupy 34 pages of the manual.

The Yaw Sensor is just one of several components. If you really think disabling the system is worthwhile for you, it would make a lot more sense to take the system out at the top (I would study disabling the CAB and ABS, then the rest of the sensors that feed them would not have to be altered or removed. You would still have brake proportioning issues to deal with by you could install an old-school mechanical type to deal with that...)