View Poll Results: Crossfire. Chrysler or not?
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Why Pretend?
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by walc
My Crossfire is a Chrysler.
I don't understand why so many owners, on this board, feel compelled to argue or protest what model Mercedes a Crossfire is, or isn't, and to rebadge their Crossfires to disguise the fact that these cars are Chryslers; not Mercedes, AMG's or Karmanns.
Is a Ford a Mercury? Is a Chevrolet truck a GMC? Is a Honda an Acura? Is a Toyota a Lexus? Is a Nissan an Infiniti? They share numerous parts and one brand is often considered more upscale than the other.
As those of us, who have owned Mercedes know, it has its' share of problems and lousy dealers, too. Thankfully, quality has improved over the last few years, in my experience.
If we, owners, deny our Crossfires heritage aren't we propagating the opinion that our cars are red-headed step-children?
I knew my car was a Crossfire when I bought it. While I have no real feelings about Chrysler, good or bad, I feel that it would make me a poser to pretend it is other than what it is.
I don't understand why so many owners, on this board, feel compelled to argue or protest what model Mercedes a Crossfire is, or isn't, and to rebadge their Crossfires to disguise the fact that these cars are Chryslers; not Mercedes, AMG's or Karmanns.
Is a Ford a Mercury? Is a Chevrolet truck a GMC? Is a Honda an Acura? Is a Toyota a Lexus? Is a Nissan an Infiniti? They share numerous parts and one brand is often considered more upscale than the other.
As those of us, who have owned Mercedes know, it has its' share of problems and lousy dealers, too. Thankfully, quality has improved over the last few years, in my experience.
If we, owners, deny our Crossfires heritage aren't we propagating the opinion that our cars are red-headed step-children?
I knew my car was a Crossfire when I bought it. While I have no real feelings about Chrysler, good or bad, I feel that it would make me a poser to pretend it is other than what it is.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by BltByKrmn
The second anyone decides to sell a Crossfire, they sure realize it's 100% Chrysler.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Think of it this way, my wife is 54 and people think she's my daughter. 
Actually, I did well with AMC. My AMC Gremlin took care of me for 5 years, until I traded it for the 260Z.
I loved the Z; but, I totaled it, after a few months, and couldn't afford another at the time. I had to switch to a 1975 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, which was OK; but no Z.
Actually, I did well with AMC. My AMC Gremlin took care of me for 5 years, until I traded it for the 260Z.
I loved the Z; but, I totaled it, after a few months, and couldn't afford another at the time. I had to switch to a 1975 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, which was OK; but no Z.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by MizD
Not so young, 55. I had a 1978 Datsun 280ZX after a divorce in which I iinherited a '74 Hornet Sportabout.(Remember American Motors?) Couldn't get rid of that albatross fast enough! Loved the Z I bought to replace the Hornet.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Well, it's good to know half of the people here seem to be elitists and half seem to be realists. Ha ha. I would not have ever purchased the Crossfire if it was a Mercedes Benz and not had a big Chrysler wing on the front. That's mostly a style standpoint but also with car snobbery. Most people have strong brand opinions but no actual facts. For instance, if you measure reliabilty by fewest trips to your service center American brands show up... (Buick, Lexus, Cadillac, Mercury, Toyota). You measure it by warrant problems then Toyota, Nissan and Subaru start showing up on top. It's all relative. Just have fun in your car and stay out of some boring FWD sedan.
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Re: Why Pretend?
I was reluctant to buy the crossfire due to the mercedes parts. I don't fully trust mercedes, especially their electronics, and this car is full of electronics. But I have a warranty on the drivetrain, so Im not too concerned. I guess I'm the only one who really isnt a fan of benz's... I do kind of want to get mercedes wheels, but I dont want the 3 spoke star on the center caps
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Re: Why Pretend?
Only my second post but I turely believe if the car had any other neame on it other than Chrysler I would have had to pay thousands more for my 2004 red autoshift XF than $14000. It is unfortunate but the name has made it the best used car value on the market if you can live with a 2 seater. However I do love the Chrysler styling but if it had been a true Chrysler I would have never bought it.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by tom2112
Wow! I'm surprised how insulted I am by this poll. 
I've owned another Chrysler product, a Dodge Stealth, and the ONLY reason I bought it was that it was REALLY a Mitsubishi 3000GT. The ONLY differences between the two cars were cosmetic. Before that I owned a Mitsubishi Eclipse, which was identical to the Pontiac Laser and the Eagle Talon - more products NOT designed and produced by the company who's name it bore.
When I think Chrysler, I am reminded of the K car, and the 70's Newports. Not exactly the cream of automotive excellence or excitement. Right or wrong, that's what I mentally associate the name Chrysler with. When I think about Mercedes and AMG, I think of the AMG Hammer - one of the world's fastest production sedans ever made. When I hear the name Karmann, I associate it with the Karmann Ghia - a cool little roadster classic. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that Chrysler has never made a good car, or that Mercedes can only produce perfect cars. But I would much rather my car be associated with Mercedes, AMG, and Karmann than with the folks that put their emblem on the hood, wheels, and trunk.
In fact, if I had not known that the Crossfire really had very little to do with Chrysler, I would never have bought it. So, yes, I probably will remove the Chrysler badges from my Crossfire. In fact, I'm planning to make a nice Karmann badge to replace them with. I also have an AMG badge for the trunk and Kompressor badges for the fenders.
Yesterday I was driving behind a fellow in a Chevy Silverado. He had a bumper sticker that said "Please don't put MY flag on your foreign car" showing an American flag. I laughed out loud at his stupidity. His "American" Silverado was made in Mexico or Canada. The "Japanese" car I was driving at the time was made in Normal, Illinois. I'm sure he would have been pissed if I had put HIS flag on my "foreign" car. (And don't even get me started on my opinion about patriotism, having served my country in the Army, I can put MY flag on any damn car I want!)
The Silverado owner's ridiculous opinion about flags and "foreign" cars is just as ridiculous as denying the Crossfire's German design and manufacture.
It seems that many people here have different opnions about our cars and their heritage. It's actually very simple. We all love our Crossfires, and we wish to associate them with other things that we love. If I want to call mine a Mercedes, so be it. If you want to call yours a Chrysler, so be it. Who cares? Don't rain on my parade, and I won't rain on yours.
I've owned another Chrysler product, a Dodge Stealth, and the ONLY reason I bought it was that it was REALLY a Mitsubishi 3000GT. The ONLY differences between the two cars were cosmetic. Before that I owned a Mitsubishi Eclipse, which was identical to the Pontiac Laser and the Eagle Talon - more products NOT designed and produced by the company who's name it bore.
When I think Chrysler, I am reminded of the K car, and the 70's Newports. Not exactly the cream of automotive excellence or excitement. Right or wrong, that's what I mentally associate the name Chrysler with. When I think about Mercedes and AMG, I think of the AMG Hammer - one of the world's fastest production sedans ever made. When I hear the name Karmann, I associate it with the Karmann Ghia - a cool little roadster classic. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that Chrysler has never made a good car, or that Mercedes can only produce perfect cars. But I would much rather my car be associated with Mercedes, AMG, and Karmann than with the folks that put their emblem on the hood, wheels, and trunk.
In fact, if I had not known that the Crossfire really had very little to do with Chrysler, I would never have bought it. So, yes, I probably will remove the Chrysler badges from my Crossfire. In fact, I'm planning to make a nice Karmann badge to replace them with. I also have an AMG badge for the trunk and Kompressor badges for the fenders.
Yesterday I was driving behind a fellow in a Chevy Silverado. He had a bumper sticker that said "Please don't put MY flag on your foreign car" showing an American flag. I laughed out loud at his stupidity. His "American" Silverado was made in Mexico or Canada. The "Japanese" car I was driving at the time was made in Normal, Illinois. I'm sure he would have been pissed if I had put HIS flag on my "foreign" car. (And don't even get me started on my opinion about patriotism, having served my country in the Army, I can put MY flag on any damn car I want!)
The Silverado owner's ridiculous opinion about flags and "foreign" cars is just as ridiculous as denying the Crossfire's German design and manufacture.
It seems that many people here have different opnions about our cars and their heritage. It's actually very simple. We all love our Crossfires, and we wish to associate them with other things that we love. If I want to call mine a Mercedes, so be it. If you want to call yours a Chrysler, so be it. Who cares? Don't rain on my parade, and I won't rain on yours.
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Re: Why Pretend?
The crossfire is a Chrysler!! Lets remember 1 thing here, the styling is pure Chrysler, not mercedes! Yes the underspinnings are from Daimler, but the design is pure Chrysler! Remember Chrysler has had what many would call "the best styling" in the auto industry! If all the parts were pure chrysler, I would have still bought the Crossfire. I've always had great experiences with Chrysler vehicles, and I've had many! I bought the crossfire because its an outstanding vehicle! You can't beat the styling, performance, or the Value! This car was the offspring of the merger between Daimler and Chrysler; thats what makes it unique! Not many cars are actually made better than a daimler vehicle. But the crossfire is a Chrysler... no matter which way you look at it!
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by antonio311
The crossfire is a Chrysler!! Lets remember 1 thing here, the styling is pure Chrysler, not mercedes! Yes the underspinnings are from Daimler, but the design is pure Chrysler! Remember Chrysler has had what many would call "the best styling" in the auto industry! If all the parts were pure chrysler, I would have still bought the Crossfire. I've always had great experiences with Chrysler vehicles, and I've had many! I bought the crossfire because its an outstanding vehicle! You can't beat the styling, performance, or the Value! This car was the offspring of the merger between Daimler and Chrysler; thats what makes it unique! Not many cars are actually made better than a daimler vehicle. But the crossfire is a Chrysler... no matter which way you look at it!
If this car was entirely Chrysler, I would not have purchased one. Why? If it were entirely Chrysler, the interior would have been horrible. The interior materials would have been much cheaper, the engine probably would have been some crappy push rod v6, and I seriously doubt there would have been a super charged SRT version. Have you ever seen the interior of a Viper? That thing costs 100 grand and has a worse interior than a Hyundai Elantra. Well, I'd still buy a Viper if I could though. Well, I guess I'd buy and SRT8 too. Hmmm. Well, I'm still glad my Chrysler is a Mercedes!
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by cgocifer
Oh man, here we go again. Wasn't this thread dead? Ok, I'll play along.
If this car was entirely Chrysler, I would not have purchased one. Why? If it were entirely Chrysler, the interior would have been horrible. The interior materials would have been much cheaper, the engine probably would have been some crappy push rod v6, and I seriously doubt there would have been a super charged SRT version. Have you ever seen the interior of a Viper? That thing costs 100 grand and has a worse interior than a Hyundai Elantra. Well, I'd still buy a Viper if I could though. Well, I guess I'd buy and SRT8 too. Hmmm. Well, I'm still glad my Chrysler is a Mercedes!
If this car was entirely Chrysler, I would not have purchased one. Why? If it were entirely Chrysler, the interior would have been horrible. The interior materials would have been much cheaper, the engine probably would have been some crappy push rod v6, and I seriously doubt there would have been a super charged SRT version. Have you ever seen the interior of a Viper? That thing costs 100 grand and has a worse interior than a Hyundai Elantra. Well, I'd still buy a Viper if I could though. Well, I guess I'd buy and SRT8 too. Hmmm. Well, I'm still glad my Chrysler is a Mercedes!
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by antonio311
Lets not forget Chrysler's crappy pushrod Hemi engine is one of wards 10 best engines ever made!
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by cgocifer
WOAH there Nelly, I said nothing about any of the V8s! I said crappy pushrod V6!!!! BIG DIFFERENCE!! When I say crappy, I mean underpowered, noisy, and unrefined. I like my V8s that way!
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Re: Why Pretend?
Originally Posted by antonio311
If you've ever been inside a Chrysler built pushrod six cylinder engine, you'd also know its a hemispherical combustion chamber just like the 8 cylinder engine! so basically the 6 is a hemi also.
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Re: Why Pretend?
Chrysler or Mercedes...I don't put a Mercedes badge on this car because...It will be another thing making noise... Mercedes or Chrysler...this car is driving me crazy... the interior of this car is so cheap... that I feel I'm already tired of it.... Mine is 2006 roadster...5,000 miles...like new...but I can't stand this noisy car... Mercedes...or Chrysler... who cares...freaking noisy car... Just put your hand on the plastic thing on the back of the chair...where the rollover bars are... and move it a little bit... I've never seen something this cheap... If anybody interested...I'm giving up... $17,000 and is yours...roadster 2006, sold in october 2007, 5,000 miles, limited... not a single scratch... and I will include all the noises for free...