Before anyone gets all crazy, this race was run on the 60e in fontana at 9 pm with literally not one other car on the road.

So the day after i got my car tuned i was going to pick up a check for a loan i closed. the drive was about 1 and a half hours and was boring as hell, but the freeway opened up and there was about a 6 mile straight, open stretch of road right in front of me. by pure coincidence, a red s2000 pulls up next to me, a guy with his girlfriend (i had my gf with me too). his girlfriend starts signaling me ahead, as if they want to race, and im shocked because no one ever tries to race me. so we start at about 75 mph (which is a horrible speed for our cars, to high in the revs for a 3rd gear start, too low for 4th, about 4k rpms) about 500 rpms outside of my strongest power band and probably right in his sweet spot. so anyway, we both take off and run up to 105 and he put about 3/4 of a length on me before i let off. i probably could have caught up a little in the top end but don't need any tickets (ticket free for 7 years). as far as his mods go, i have no idea, but its pretty rare for a 20 something year old to have a stock s2000. good run anyway, i would have taken him from a 65 roll though, for sure.

 

how dare you post a loss on here, your such a wuss.

 

75 mph...That is my sweet spot...and from a roll...always a good thing for me...launches from a stop can be a little difficult...can't seem to get the horrible wheel spin to lessen...anyhow...I have come across one s2000 since acquiring the SRT8...on my way to work (I'm on the freeway by 4:15 or 4:30 am and at work by 4:30-4:45 am)...Well there I was trying to finish up my monster as I cruise (80-85 mph) to work...Well I see these little lights just floating towards me at a high rate of speed..I don't pay him no mind because I was in cruise mode, well he pulls ahead a lil I guess to let me see what he's driving... ok I give her a little gas and we are now door to door, I have my hand on the stick just waiting for him to lurch forward...We are steadily pacing each other at 85 sometimes 90 mph, I check the EVIC, ahhh a cool 197 degrees ET, decide to flip on the fan switch to give her some assistance in getting cooler air around the engine...I look up and we are just getting into the long stretch of this particular freeway then I look over and he lurches forward, baaad decision I was expecting this...and I hit him at full WOT right in the middle of my power band and within seconds, I am at 120 and climbing, the JBA's are just a roaring and the s2000 is fading fast, I let off the accelerator to float through a curve at about 110 and look back and the s2000 slows way down before the curve...Oh well...It was an awesome way to start my morning...

 

it was probably closer to 70, whatever it was it had me at 4k rpm in 4th. 4,500 is my sweet spot, but 3rd is my best gear, so 65 is probably my best spot.

 

Maybe I missed it X'ed, but what the hell did you do to your car to get to 220 whp?

That nearly 50 whp increase from a stocker. No 2?

 

well the earlier crossfires weren't able to rev the whole way, if you remember, so they weren't accurate hp numbers. the one guy who did get a full run was an auto, so he was about 10 whp lower than a manual if i had to guess.

and the MAIN reason why is that i was on a dynapack. i posted that up in my big thread. i put down like 199 to the wheels stock and 220 to the wheels after the tune, pretty amazing gain (21 whp) on an na car.

as you and i know, dynapacks TEND to read higher than roller dynos, and the guy at the shop said his s2000 makes 211 on his dyno and 201 on a dynojet. so in my thread i said i guessed that i actually probably had 207 at the wheels on a dynojet, following a relative calculation to the s2000's that the owner had. i probably really put down like 186-88 to the wheels stock on a dynajet.

there is a calculation out there that is very precise, but i'm lazy and suck at math, and am pretty sure my guesstimates are close. dynapacks are the best dynos to tune on and that's why they used that one. nevertheless, the 21 whp will get me bye until i get my new car in july, as will racing buttonwillow. it was free too, bullseye. its no srt-4, but its way better that my car when it was stock, as you can see the torque is pretty monster.


by the way, search my thread called "my tune, my dyno, my story" or something like that, my dyno runs are up in there.

 

what new car are you gonna get??

 

Yeah the S2000 is very nice when that V-tech kicks in. In my friends car that is about 100 mph, than he is gone. X-ed thats when you should open that bottle of Nitrous on him and tell his girl to jump into your car!

 

still up in the air. i FEEL like i want an evo, but i know the shi**y interior is going to bug me eventually, as will the lack of any feel of quality, but the speed potential still tugs at my heart. i have also been looking at the ls2 gto's, but haven't test driven it yet. i'm pretty sure i'm going to end up in the legacy gt, the power is very surprising, top notch interior and it just felt right when i drove it. i drove the wrx, thing feels like the biggest pos i have ever driven. but the legacy is a hell of a car, turbo and awd. its pretty plain jane looking, but there is a few really nice body kits out there. if i got it i would probably get an '07 spec b, because it has a beefier 6 speed tranny.

 

enjoy the insurance premium on the evo...I priced one out and it's pretty high up there ($1,100 for 6 months). The collision on that car is outrageous at nearly $600 of the $1,100 at least through Geico.

 

EVO's are just fugly, I would go with a 2000-2 vette, lot's of upgrades for that car and it's already plenty fast stock. otherwise have the guys at SI s/c or turbo your crossfire. then you could save money on insurance and on the purchase of another car.

 

i would never drive a vette, just personal taste, i think it a great car, just far from my style. something about it screams penile deficiency. as for the looks of the evo, to each his own, i think it looks very aggressive. and the insurance for me is $8 dollars more a month on an evo, the legacy gt is actually more than the evo, $10 dollars more a month. i need something with four real seats this time around also. and unfortunately, it would cost $10,000 to supercharge the crossfire or turbo it, so that just not anywhere near worth it. my car is leased and my buyout will probably be 20k or so, on a car worth 15k. i'm sure i could haggle, but i can get a year old spec b for 26k and have it running 430 whp for 5 grand. its not only about the horsepower, but that's a small reason.

 

Yea absolutely right... who the hell wants to insure a ricer?

 

that's a very narrow minded and racist thing to say. just because its japanese its a ricer? a ricer is a car with modifications that don't benefit performance, i.e. big ugly body kits, huge fart can exhausts, graphics. an evo would thoroughly whoop your srt-6, they run a 12.9 in the quarter stock, and handling, forget about it. don't knock the car for no reason, its a great, high performance car that we are lucky to finally have in the u.s. how would you like it if i called your car a jew hater? its made in germany, so it must be a ****, right?

 

oh yeah, and like i said it costs $8 dollars more a month to insure, hardly back breaking.

 

I checked out the EVO and all I can say is what are you thinkin? I know cars are a personal choice and I will respect that. You would not see me even sitting in one of those cars.

I think it was designed for the south of the boarder friends, our new population growth. I think the spoiler says it all. You think this is better looking than a Vette? Ok, Whatever!

 

x'ed go for it... but don't expect the 40+ crowd here to understand your decision as it makes little sense at their age as they do not need the four doors often times... its a practical car that can be used for different things, the 4g63 is a great powerplant that can make gobs of power and still maintain 30 mpg on the highway, there is a great aftermarket for it making parts for it less and less expensive with a abundance of choices, and since is shares the lancer platform it is inexpensive and quick to repair if ever in a fender bender (unlike the xF that you can wait 6 months for a window on)... not to mention the handling, the 4 wheel drive system is one of the most advanced in the world, never seen a 4wd car capable of drifting corners like these things do; it is plain out a sick sight to see...

now having said that, i have a SRT-4 with 300 hp and a crossfire base with less than 200 hp to the floor... i experienced cars with plenty of power already so if it came down to it i would chose the crossfire everytime just cause of the look and way it makes me feel when i drive it; not to mention the less likely chance of being mistaken for a "street racer that needs to taught a lesson" by the local PD... i work hard to make my money and pay my taxes so therefore i expect to be treated with the respect i deserve... and the xF and my ultra quiet and wingless SRT-4 are one way i make that happen.

 

Ok, so we will call the Crossfire the Crossover, because it spans the generations!

 

hah ... yea its the same with many cars that attract enthusiasts however ... unlike a buick which you expect someone in their late 60s to drive or someone younger but using it just due to the fact that they got it cheap and needed cheap transportation ... the xF attracts anyone of any age so long as they have enthusiasm for automobiles ...

i have experienced the same with the SRT-4 even when i went to purchase a part from a local srtforums member ... the guy was in his late 40's and had a SRT-4 that was very tastefully done in silver with just power modifications and navigation ...

either way ... enjoy what you drive...

 

Pontiac Solstice GXP, a lot of HP for the buck and boat loads of aftermarket...