lol that's very funny i admit ... especially since i have hankook icebears on the SRT-4 as it is my winter duty car ! i understand your choice however ... planting your foot all the way down in a SRT that’s modified to the level that mine is gives a feeling not even a SRT-6 can match... its not a linear soft accel of the SRT-6, the civilized speed demon it is... its a forceful shove you in your seat, hold on cause the tires are going from side to side, you are already doing 160, nice work ! kinda accel... a experience that can only be understood by someone that owns one so i am sure you understand but i doubt others would... and i think x'ed is seeking the same type of power to use when he is not using the car for daily duties making the evo a excellent choice indeed.

i'll return to wanting power when my 4 points disappear THX SRT-4 ! grrr... hahaha... j/k that’s not the reason i like the xF so much more ... i enjoy the xF for the mountain roads i take it to in upstate ny...

 

Well what can I say, I'm not a fan of the EVO, and never really had any interest in researching the engine. I'm not big into the ricer scene, but do what you must. You're a pretty cool guy yourself, good luck.

 

once again, psuperti you demonstrate your ignorance and lack of knowledge about automobiles. vtec doesn't "kick in" because your going a certain speed, its when your car hits a certain rpm.

 

The SRT-6 certainly does have a very smooth and strong pull. The modded SRT-4 is generally much more aggressive in nature and not nearly as smooth due to the peaky power production.

You want smooth? How about 500+ ft/lbs at the wheels by 2,800 rpm? 700+ ft/lbs by 4,500 rpm and still climbing. That, my friend, is smooth. Forget down shifting. Just ease down on the throttle and watch the little Mustang slide backwards as the rpm builds.
Every now and then, owning a science project has it's benefits.

As for the Evo, one of the guys at work has a 2005 MR. It cost him more than my SRT and could not get around it until after he added software mods, swapped out the exhaust, and increased the boost. He's now run a 12.9 to my 13.2 at the same track.

 

How much does Dodge get for a new SRT4, and what's the price on a new EVO?

 

they don't make srt-4's any more, but they were around 21k. hands down its the best bang for your buck out there, especially since dodge sells power packages themselves. a stage 3 srt-4 is an 11 second car. i just am not a fan of fwd and thats sort of led me away from it.

evos really range, from 28k to 34k or so. they are going for less now, people are picking up non rs evo IV's for about 28k, those models go for 32 or so. the MR is the top of the line model, and the RS is the low end, no power windows, no fancy wing and some other stuff.

both are great buys.

 

those mods should have him in the mid to low 12's. 12.9 is not totally uncommon for stock evo IV's. unless its an evo 8, but i don't know if they made MR evo 8's.

 

Not on a '05. He was talking about an '05 MR.

Also the MR sucks for drag racing. especially if you start heavily modding. It's a tad weaker, and runs out of gearing. I think the best you can trap in a MR is 116?

My friend has an '06 MR, with TBE, MBC,flash. And still only runs low 13's @ 106ish. He is still getting used to it. Same day bolted on, tuned Stage 2 SRT-4's were going midish-high 12's. My trans-am that day ran 13.5 @ 107 with some horrid driving. Hitting the brake between shifts, 2.35 60'. Horrible. If I brought that car back, I would have been high 12's for sure on street tires.

High 12's stock for even a IX, is far from the norm. I always see them run mid 13's at the tracks around me. ET's are usually similar but the ix's have a couple mph on them.

I already squeaked out a 13.99 @ almost 104 out of my SRT-4 bone stock. I am going back with just Solid motor mounts, and a STS 80 percent redux, and an intake (noise mod). With just that, I am hoping to cut some 2.0's and rip some mid 13's.

Have you taken the XF to the track yet?

Oh, and be careful of the times you read. Alot of these crazy times for the ix's, as well as other cars were done in insanely good air. Like negative 2000. Such as the 11.9 EVO 9 with just, tune, tbe, intake, or the Trailblazer SS, that went mid 12's with just a few bolt ons. And even Ranger's 10 second Z06 pass with just DR's. All done in the same time.

If I ran my stock SRT-4 in that weather, my 13.99 would have been a 13.55 @ 107. LOL. Which we both know is way out of the norm for a stock SRT.

 

Ever driven an E55? I was amazed how smooth the power delivery was.

Also, got any shots under the hood of the Belvedere?

 

i have seen a good amount of 12.9's on evolutionm.net forums, i don't know what conditions were but you and i know that they run low 12's really easy, cams, ecu, exhaust and meth. meth and cams for evos equal about 80 whp. i saw some insane 1/8th mile times from evo's over here. i ran a shi#ty time, all season tires own me.

 

I've got some high speed oval time in a CLS55 at the Texas Motor Speedway for a Mercedes On Track event. Power delivery is smooth and impressive but I preferred the SLK55 despite it's lower power.
The CLS is nothing more than a swoopy E-class.

Underhood shots of the hot rod? Nothing that shows the Edelbrock heads and couple other goodies. I need to get some shots of them.
This one is a little over a year old.

 

nice manifold, who made that?

 

The manifold is my design and I supplied the material. However, the actual construction was done by: www.bobnorwood.com.
I've got a machine shop at home but I'm not equipped for welding aluminum. this time I elected to farm it out to someone with more experience.
It was built from an old Weiand tunnel ram intake and evolved into a monster. To put it in perspective, I'm 6' tall and weigh 225 lbs.



To give you an idea what's changed on the hot rod, picture this pile of goodies stuffed in there too.

 

Thanks, my dad and I love your car. Any more shots of it? Also any performance numbers? My dad use to own a '64.


And X'ed what did you run at the track???

 

Holy Crap Batman !

 

What? You thought I was pulling your leg this whole time?

It really is a sickness.

As for the performance, it belted out 657 hp and 742 ft/lbs at the wheels. That was a few years ago running 17 psi through a carburetor and iron heads from the junk yard. I did have to use race fuel with that much boost. I normally keep it down to 8 psi since it's a street car.
The current setup with EFI and Edelbrock heads has certainly perked it up a bit. I haven't made any pulls with the new combo. Honestly, I only drove the car 3 or 4 times since purchasing the SRT.
Now that the SRT is gone, I'll take the hot rod out for exercise more often.

I've got various pics of the car and upgrades through the years at http://members.aol.com/twinturbo440 and the original website for the hot rod is http://members.aol.com/lqdnthusim/newpage.htm but that hasn't been updated since 2001. That second page is the condition the car was in when I made the high powered runs. Frightening, eh?

 

What stretch of pavement might you be referring to?

EC hmmm i enjoy the stretch between lake jennings and dunbar.

 

to tell you the truth i have no idea. i have never been out there before, but it was very east. and bullseye, let me look for my time slip, i don't remember.

 

Nope, I just never saw a blower that is nearly the same size of my engine... You got rid of your SRT ?

 

scariest part is thats just the intake manifold ... got pics of the turbos ? i want to see if those look like they can fit a small child too... you should have a sign to warn people to keep their pets away from the intake area. lol.