Oh Man, When I bought a crossfire I thought it would at least be as safe as my motorcycle. Come on, Did you really think you where getting a "safe, Crashworthy" car when YOU picked a crossfire. Trade in and get an suv, You will be "safe" and I will take my chances in the xf. I really am sorry you are having trouble. Cheer up, It's only life after all.

 

You all need to check the government crash test for the Crossfire 4 to 5 stars! I would not consider an SUV safer than a Crossfire, they tip over! They blow tires!

FirebaseD, you Rock, and really like to stir it up. I really don't care what you think about the Crossfire anyway! Also the article didn't mention MB, also our car has one of the stiffest body frames on the road, stiffer than a 911 remember?

 

The only thing I agree with is that Chrysler does not care or stand behind there product. Having the car serviced is a chore because the dealerships don't care and don't know anything about the cars. Chrysler has had the reputation for years of not caring or standing behind there product. I love my car and will miss it when the lease is up but I will say bye bye Chrysler, because this will be the last Chrysler I own!

 

I have personally owned 7 Chryslers all of which have been serviced without incident. My Xfire had no issues, but I've had the oil changed and the sills installed, no problem and the work was done in a timely manner.

To suggest all Chrysler dealers/mechanics are worthless and to write off all Chrysler cars is a bit harsh, IMO.

My sentiments go out to those that have had issues. Sharon's saga with her roadster had me quite worried for her even though I've never met her other than on these boards. Her car, as of her most recent post, is running well due to a diligent effort on her part and a technician that finally knew what to fix on her car. I'm sure ALL makes of cars have problems
I've also owned Ford's, Subaru's, VW's, and Mitsubishi's...none of them is perfect. My Xfire, however, is darn close!

 

FB,

As far as what to do with it??? HUMMM!!! I would help you dig the foxhole, take a bullet for ya, and even carry you out of the Chosen but I would never ask you to do that with it.

 

As Golfergal pointed out, no matter what kind of car you buy, or how much you spend, it's possible to get a lemon. Every manufacture builds them, it's simply a cruel joke of fate.
Sometimes an entire model line is tagged as lemons. I.E. ...General Motors Vega, Fords Edsal, and for Chrysler, I'd have to say it was the 1957 Plymouth. Even to this day (50 years later) I know people of my fathers generation who would never by another Chrysler product because of that one particular car.
In this forum you will read what to some, may sound like a lot of people complaining about their cars. Truth be told, if I had found the forum before actually buying my car, I may have had second thoughts about making the purchase. Finally it occurred to me, where else are you going to hear more complaints about something than on a web site dedicated to that subject?
The XF may never developed a reputation as being as dependable as a Honda or Toyota, but it's certainly no Vega or Edsal either, or as Firebase calls it "Junk on wheels". But to him, feeling that way about his car is understandable, because an electrical short that can't be found (only smelled) would scare the heck out of me too. I would certainly never park the car in my garage without disconnecting the battery.
To those of you who say that you will never own another Chrysler product, why not look at it the same way Robin Williams did in his movie, The world according to Garp. When the house he was looking at to buy gets crashed into by a plane right before his eyes, he turns to the real estate agent and says, "We'll take it, It's been pre-disastered, what are the odds of anything bad happening to it again?" So what are the odds of getting another "lemon" from Chrysler?

 

LEMON CLAW?

 

With the problems I have, I don't blame the car. I still love the car, I blame the service I get from my dealers.

 

Wow 68 posts that was a fun read. Love my crossfire and this forum. Both provide me great pleasure.

Hooayah rastafari

Respect.

 

Mike Sobiecki, a DaimlerChrysler District Manager, tells the service manager at the Chrysler dealership he cannot see what I'm talking about. He then instructs the service manager not to perform any repairs, because he sees no reason I would have any wind noise in the R/S glass area of my crossfire.

Am I seeing things or do you folks agree with the DM, I'm telling you people Chrysler is washing their hands of the Crossfire. Best be watching your rear ends. What goes around comes around. hooah

 

You sound like me! In 11 months I say goodbye to Chrysler. Hopefully I won't buy another car that will start falling apart and be told that is "normal."

 

Wow,

I am really confused about all of this talk about cars and dealers. It would be interesting to have a pole to see who likes the car and who hates it also dealer satisfaction.

I have had no issues with the car or dealer.

 

Well, its not just Chrysler. Most car dealers I have dealt with, from Hyundai, to Ford, to GM, to Audi, to Honda, to Mazda, and yes, a Chrysler or two, SUCK. It depends on the local management. You would think that the corporate higher-ups would be more on top of it. When I spoke with Mazda corporate in particular (who by the way, have the absolute WORST service), I was told that they will add the complaint to the file, but it was the dealer's problem, not theirs. But doesn't the dealer represent them? Its a franchise! If your McDonalds sucks, Mc D's corporate will pull your franchise license. You would think that with the dismal auto sales of the big three that service would be #1 priority. Guess not.
On the other hand, I have dealt with a few EXCEPTIONAL dealers, two of them Chrysler. It really is hit and miss.

 

I've never had any major issues with any service dept. I've used with my previous cars, Ford, Datsun, Mazda, Acura, and now Chrysler (so far). I guess I've been lucky. But I will say this... one of those I mentioned really made me feel good about their service, going above and beyond expectations whenever I did use them. That was Acura.

 

Hey Firebase,

Been off the forum for a bit - so just today when I was taking a break from work and checked in your flame naturally caught my eye.

Everyone, and I do mean everyone, seems to go out of their way to wish you luck, send condolences etc. However, as someone who works with the public and who has seen and dealt with other people with your personality type, it appears you are truly one gigantic PITA!

What I've seen over the years is that people bring their problems/attitudes with them. Some, thankfully a very small minority, seem to gain some level of satisfaction in creating confrontation vs working toward an equitable solution to get their problems solved.

Dealt with a retired PhD professor many years ago - reminds me of you. He was an insomniac, and wrote letters to everyone and God about his problems. Totally forgotten about him until I read the list of how many agencies you have involved to date! What a hoot! I really appreciate your post as I needed a good chuckle! The best one was when you started off about the roof standard. Man that was good! I about lost it there from laughing out loud.

Keep em coming - and I'll think about them everytime I'm playing with my car - and smile.

Henry Payne
2005 Base

 

I traded in my Acura for my Crossfire. You are right Acura went way above and beyond. That is why I would get another one!

 

I would like to see the clip of the short in the dash. Can you please post it?

 

Hooah hpmotors

it appears you are truly one gigantic PITA!
Thank you...
I do try my best.

Some, thankfully a very small minority, seem to gain some level of satisfaction in creating confrontation vs working toward an equitable solution to get their problems solved...
You are talking about the dealerships and Chrysler, right?

wrote letters to everyone and God about his problems...
I was thinking I would do that one Sunday...take it by the church Sunday morning...drop it off. Maybe I could inquire about a small earthquake in the area of Auburn Hills, like maybe just at that one location, you know the kind of earthquake in the Old Testament where only the A holes got sucked up.

The best one was when you started off about the roof standard. Man that was good! I about lost it there from laughing out loud...
Yes you are right; while I was posting the information I was thinking to myself "this is really over the top, even for me." lol

Keep em coming - and I'll think about them every time I'm playing with my car - and smile...
and yes I'm still loving my Crossfire also, but with me it's kinda like being in love with a Ho...you try to see only the good things about her... but at the end of each day she is still a Ho.

 

http://photos.imageevent.com/firebas...sh%20Sound.wmv

Be sure and watch the AC button flashing off and on (the video is not as clean as I would like, but it's great for the net)... also notice the position of the fan controls.

Chrysler states there is no problem, and this is not happening. (per Mike Sobiecki, DaimlerChrysler District Manager).

Like I say: "you can love it, but never forget what goes around comes around."

 

Hey Firebase,

We need to get together and chug a few brews! I think the conversation would be lively!

Cheers,

Henry Payne
HPMotors