we have test the grille on monday and we have see, that we must modify the mounting points and also a bit of the shape. we want to produce a perfect product for our customers.

the frame comes unpainted. no options are planned. but if you say, we need 10 black grilles and 10 white for example, i think we can offer you the grille painted for a very good price.

 

tino,
With this mounted does the chrysler spread eagle on the hood stay? If it does stay, that means it will look like it is floating above the grille in the painted area. It probably would look better without it, but that means repainting the hood due to paint fading or marks from the trim piece.

 

Please respond to the new poll I put on this forum g color choice. Maybe we can get at least some of them painted. I don't know what Tino's minimum would be to paint a particular color. Hopefully he will want to accommodate us. I know painting it locally is s show stopper for me.

 

It sounds as if the design of this thing just made it a complete dud!!! Now it isn't just a grille, but a front end job that is going to require way more than just a swap. The KISS principle was lost on this one, IMO.

 

What are you talking about? The poster above you mentioned something and you're running with it. Wait till you see the final product for cripes sakes as we have no idea how this will interact with the hood emblem. My bet is that it will follow the exact contours of the factory grill which was the whole point from the beginning.

Seriously the jumping to conclusions is some funny stuff. Jerry Springer mentality for the win.

Sorry but just tired of off the cuff speculation without seeing a finished product.

 

Not jumping to any conclusions...Tino's (CTD-Germany since you obviously didn't read it) post specifically states that painting is required. Personally, I don't care if you have to have your whole car painted to match.

So I don't see any "off the cuff speculation" or "jumping to conclusions" when it's coming straight from CTD. Maybe you should rethink which one of us has the Jerry Springer mentality...or not...don't really care. It is what it is and not a simple grille replacement.

 

So having to paint the grill makes it a complete dud eh? OK you make sense.

He already said they have to edit the mounting points, which would mean they are working and have said multiple times that IT IS A DIRECT REPLACEMENT.

Read the thread as its been said several times that the grill must be a direct replacement. How could you produce something that wouldn't be? Paint options have already been mentioned by him as well so again. Yes you jumped to conclusions.

Where exactly is the "front end job"? Painting it?

 

For me, it's a dud...ain't gonna do it.

You have yours and I have mine...and that's okay!

 

Sorry I think someone is losing the plot here.

It's already been mentioned by CTD that the new grill assembly simply replaces the old grill, using the same mounting points - what's difficult to understand about that???

Ok...so it MAY need painting depending on the colour of your car, what's the big deal My wife's car gets scratches and things painted every few months to keep it pristine; if you want to change the look of your car with this grill that's what you might need to do;... like it or lump it!

 

So its a dud based on ... drum roll ... nothing?

I mean, what to you has made it a dud? That you have to paint it? I mean, god forbid you'd have to paint an aftermarket part. Nobody does that.

The man has already said that they are altering the mounting points which would lend to the fact that it will be a direct replacement. So again, how is this A WHOLE FRONT END JOB?

I'm not picking on you but I deal with the facts as they are. How does having to paint an aftermarket part amount to a "whole front end job"?

Has nothing to do with opinion, please don't fall back on the internets biggest crutch of opinions.

 

ding ding we have a winner.

 

Thank You... I Think.

 

I've sat in the background and read all the posts ... 2 and 3 times. I like what CTD has begun and I 'think' that they, CTD, are reading these same posts and are taking into consideration all of the comments made to date.
I look forward to seeing more on this project in the form of photos. I would love to change out the grille and make my XF truly unique. What I mean by that is I see PT Cruisers, 300's, etc that Chrysler has set on the road ... with similar front ends. Any time a new item is put in the design and build prototype stage it's an endeavor at best. CTD is also counting on us, the XF owners, to buy this. One thing NOT in our favor, DC's possibly not building the XF after 2007.

If the price isn't too high, I'm in ... (too high: > $500 US).

I just changed my wife's 300 with a Bentley style grille ... and she's now got something different ... there are other 300's around, stock grille.

Thank you Tino and CTD for the time and effort you are spending on our behalf.

adoni

 

And all I was trying to do is take advantage of Tino's willingness to paint a few of them. If we have enough of the same color for those of us who can't go out to their garage and paint it themselves. Geez

 

I have no problem with your post. The one below yours was ridiculous though.

 

I didn't think you did. I was just surprised at the furor it started.

 

buckeyedad42, there was no furor intended. My comments referred to the change from the original mesh grille to this fiberglass frame that, while I understand is a bolt in replacement, will need to be paint matched. That is what I meant by "front end job" as it isn't something that everyone can do at home (unless they have a paint shop in their garage). The mesh grille that was originally shown could have been a direct bolt in and go. The additional cost of trying to get it paint matched, TO ME, makes it a dud...because anyone with an SSB Crossfire is going to have one heck of a time getting it matched.

I apologize to you for the way that your post went. There are just a couple of forum "bullies" that want to come after you with over-zealous bs if you don't agree with them or say what they want you to say. I find it better to feed their egos and let them declare themselves "winners" than to degrade what I think is a great forum of varying knowledge and preferences.

I do appreciate very much what CTD has done, and hopefully will continue to do, for the Crossfire. Tino has been very involved with us and I also hope that he continues. The grille just doesn't "do it" for me (as in the current renderings) but I will continue to follow it and see how it develops and what others do with it.

 

I might agree that the mesh portion of the grille is set back too far. Maybe "split" the difference.

A "Picture" will solve a lot a lot of words.
or maybe not...ok...i'll wait.

PS, I haven't seen any other manufacturer answer any inquiries, let alone step up and make a prototype of anything. Again, just my 2c.

 

I love the fact that people are so passionate about these grill ideas, even if we don't agree. I've wanted to do something about the minivan grill since I bought the XF. I saw something about upper and lower pieces in the past. I just want to see a photo of a car with all the work done. I know it's going to be better. I'd just like to see it.

 

danimal, no bullying at all. You concluded that it was a dud without seeing a finished product. Folly at best. You can continue the charade if you wish but until you see the finished product on a car you can draw only speculation. If it looks like *** I'll agree with you. As far as having to paint it I've never seen any after market part you didn't have to paint when it was something like this. So deducting points from it is silly.

Anyway, I hope you like the finished product, if not I guess there are other options.