Hi All,

I realize volume and loudness are subjective in nature...

That being said I have a question for anyone who has installed the Kenwood KMR-D562BT. I am a fairly new owner of a 2004 NA with the Infinity system but no navigation. I didn't get a chance to drive it a lot with the factory head unit, but what little I did the system seemed to have a little thump.

I recently had the D562BT installed and I'm usually running the volume at 30. It feels like there is no head room maxed out at 35.

Where do you other D562 owners run your volume for music on a highway cruise?
Does the D562 and factory amp seem to be more than enough volume?

Other than the D562 everything else is stock.

Thanks for any help or insight.
Craig

 

I recently put mine in two weeks ago, I can't put it over 10 without the car shaking itself apart. I to have the infinity system in my car. Did you do it yourself or did you have someone what do it for you?

 

Interesting.

I had it professionally installed. The installer even commented on how quiet the
system was.

I think they bypassed the Infinity amp and the power is coming from the head unit only.

Any other Kenwood owners and where you normally run the volume?

Thanks!

 

Your professional installer needs to look for another field to work in, 30 would make my ears bleed.
Sitting in the car, engine off and 15 is the max I can bear, I wear hearing aids so I have it louder than most. I want to keep what hearing I have left.

 

Luckily I work from home so I have been keeping the Crossfire covered up and off of the winter roads. The weather is starting to improve so I'll make sure to stop in to the install shop and have them take another look. I just wanted a little back up of people with the same setup. It's good to know that I will eventually have a decent sounding system once hooked up correctly. I was starting to think I was going to have to upgrade amp, etc.

I'm a musician so it's not like I want to blow out my hearing but sometimes it's nice to crank it. Especially in the Crossfire!!!

 

Welcome to the forum. Everyone wants to crank it up every now and then.

 

I found the initial email thread with the installers. I sent them the Install Instructions pdf from the forum to give them a better idea of the install.

Here is how they went about it:

Installer: I would recommend the Metra 70-1786 for the wiring harness instead of the schoshe and a line output converter.

Me: Would the Metra 70-1786 get me a little more power and better signal to noise ratio, etc?

Installer: It would give you a cleaner signal as it uses the radios pre amp outputs. It would give you less noise as opposed to the LOC. It is more or less doing the same thing without having an additional piece that could introduce noise.

If Mother Nature cooperates it looks like I'll be able to stop by the installers shop this Wednesday to have them take another look.

I can't say how much I have been enjoying the forum! I think I am wearing out the search function!

 

One of those minor overlooked details.. that speak volumes.. Redo it with speaker lead output and you'll be at 25 volume level with no output increase past that..


Preamp Voltage 2.5 volts

 

Very simple, the kenwood is a very adjustable radio. In the settings for each input you can set a volume offset from 0 to -8. I have mine all at -8. And I can go full volume and get all 35 stops of adjustment and still notice the speed sensitive amp. Read the radio's manual, it is online if you no longer have it. I tried using per-amp outputs but wasn't satisfied. With using the speaker outputs into the factory wiring and setting the audio offset it is excellent. I also did the best band for the buck mod and while it is great for cranking the subs with no distortion for the doors, I feel the doors mid-bass is reduced for normal listening.

 

Agreed, I really like the number of editable parameters that the 562BT offers. I have tweaked every possible parameter in hopes of squeezing a little more perceived loudness/headroom. But as mentioned I could easily bury it on 35 and not even have my wife complain!

I do have the Scoshce VW01B harness so I'll get the installers to swap out their recommended Metra 70-1786 with the Scoshce.

I can't wait to hear the system with a little more juice.

Thanks everyone for your input!

Craig

 

Just made an appointment for this Wednesday at 8:00 to have installer look at it. I did my best to explain what was going on but he wanted to wait and see what was happening. I'll bring along the VW01B and the wiring portion of the instruction pdf printed out. I'm assuming it should just be a matter of pulling the deck and disconnecting the Pre Outs and have the VW01B wired up. Correct?
Thanks!

 

3 things to think of
1 - which Crossfire do you have (what year & trim? 2004, 2005 (limited, base, srt...) I don't think the 2005 and newer "Base" models have an additional amplifier so may be quieter anyway. All 2004, all Limited and all SRT6 should have one.
2 - Assuming it has a factory amplifier, unless setting it up with new amp, I would recommend using the speaker outputs on the Kenwood. You would only use 1 set, typically the front, no fader. That is how the factory radio is setup.
3 - How did it sound with factory radio? Did the subwoofers work at all in the first place?
Check these threads on mine
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post851973
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ound-subs.html

 

2004 Limited with Infinity amp and subs.

Factory deck and subs sound surprisingly good I thought.

So the plan is to go with the speaker lead outputs using the VW01B harness.

 

No, you did not.....

Because this minimum wage kid off the street, who could not find a better paying job, knew it was not right when he was done - but given that he has no clue what he's doing, AND because you probably paid under $75 for the work and your time was up - they tried to walk away from it.

It is rare to find a 'shop' that has people in it that know what they are doing - were they capable, they could find better paying jobs than $9.50 an hour to "install" car audio.

Here is yet another like of work I could do after I retire - I'd never run out of work, I'd just run out of patience with people who expect car audio installs for $35 (NOT that you are one of them, but thing is, there is little market for qualified car audio installation, because no one is willing to pay $90 an hour - the going rate, on average, for a skilled and experienced ACTUAL electronics technician.

I hate reading stuff like this, it's like reading about people who take their car to Jiffy Lube - ever read any of THOSE stories?



The other guys here gave you good advice - I'm just venting....

 

I'm not really happy about it either considering I had requested to have it installed as instructed here on the site.

Believe it or not I did shop around the various local shops because I wanted it done right and they came highly recommended.

Remote Car Starters, Auto Sound, Alarm Installer Des Moines was the shop here in Des Moines. I'm hopeful they are going to make it right.

 

The shop rate was $100.00 so it's not like I was looking for a cheap install. Just wanted it done correctly.

 

There is no reason, for that money, for them to turn the car back to you not right.

 

I can understand this pretty much. Everyone is told that using the pre-amp outputs is better, cleaner sounding, less interference/crosstalk... that kind of thing. So I can understand the desire to wire up a new one that way. I did it myself, but for the reason of having the sub output on separate controls, so I could use the radios crossover. I will re-visit that someday when I am bored, but for now, straight from speaker outs and all is well. And with the Kenwood set to -8 audio, at full volume it seems extremely loud, but not clipping on the speakers, so I have a better range of adjustment, typically under 20 I think.
From the manual

VOLUME OFFSET For AUX: –8 to +8 (0) ; For other sources: –8 to 0: Presets the
volume adjustment level of each source. (Before adjustment, select
the source you want to adjust.)

 

Also when setting it up, the color "YELLOWGREEN2" is pretty close. I used this R-5 G-6 B-0, and seems close.

 

Looks like what happened the author of the Install pdf:

I settled on the Kenwood KMR-D562BT. I purchased from Crutchfield because after the freebies, the price seemed similar to others. I had to call them to get the free stuff as this is a marine HU and their system doesn't auto include as a result. Advisor suggested that i use Metra 70-1786 and a Scosche SLC4 Line Output Converter to connect to the amp. He said the volume would be too low without the Line converter

Looks like sometimes using the pre-outs isn't always the best decision.