Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Secondary Smog / Air Pump
My wife's check engine light came on and it appears the secondary air pump isn't working. I checked the 40 amp fuse and it was still ok. I tried to run the pump by hooking power directly to it and no-go. Appears the pump is bad. Can these be rebuilt or best to buy new (or used). Any part numbers to use in the search of a replacement unit/does this pump cross over to Mercedes or something else?
I'll check the relay next to see if it's ok or the points need to be cleaned up, but in any case, I need a new pump.
Where is the best place to buy one? Prices range greatly and thought someone may know of a great place, thanks
I'll check the relay next to see if it's ok or the points need to be cleaned up, but in any case, I need a new pump.
Where is the best place to buy one? Prices range greatly and thought someone may know of a great place, thanks
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
My wife's check engine light came on and it appears the secondary air pump isn't working. I checked the 40 amp fuse and it was still ok. I tried to run the pump by hooking power directly to it and no-go. Appears the pump is bad. Can these be rebuilt or best to buy new (or used). Any part numbers to use in the search of a replacement unit/does this pump cross over to Mercedes or something else?
I'll check the relay next to see if it's ok or the points need to be cleaned up, but in any case, I need a new pump.
Where is the best place to buy one? Prices range greatly and thought someone may know of a great place, thanks
I'll check the relay next to see if it's ok or the points need to be cleaned up, but in any case, I need a new pump.
Where is the best place to buy one? Prices range greatly and thought someone may know of a great place, thanks
Read this and see if yours is repairable. CLICK
The pump should have the Mercedes part number on it.
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Has anyone tried to trick the computer somehow and not actually repaired or replaced the faulty secondary smog/air pump? Was thinking there may be a vacuum line that senses when the pump comes on at start up and if it could be supplied a vacuum by some other means, it trick the computer into thinking all is well with this pump.
Just a pain and costly to fix this useless pump and was wondering if anyone has every developed a work-around for not having the pump.
Just a pain and costly to fix this useless pump and was wondering if anyone has every developed a work-around for not having the pump.
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
I read about how it determines the pump is running, back two years ago when mine acted up. I BELIEVE I read that the PTCM watches the O2 level in the exhaust, then commands the pump to run - if it does not see an increase in O2, it sets a "low/no flow" code. So, no, you are not going to re-map the PTCM's code for THAT, are you? I mean, not for less than 'way too much money', a pump would be cheaper.
You can google the P0401 code and read about it, that's how I found the description of what it was doing.
You can google the P0401 code and read about it, that's how I found the description of what it was doing.
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Thanks for the input. Seems you already know. My pump isn't working and the state inspection sticker is coming up soon. I was wondering if I can remove the pump and mess with it and my wife still be able to drive her car. Would you know that?
Just think while at work and not looking at the car. Will check the relays as well to see if one is burnt....
Just think while at work and not looking at the car. Will check the relays as well to see if one is burnt....
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Running the car without it would be fine, IF the check valve that prevents exhuast flow thru that port(s) is not part of the assembly you remove. I just can't picture it all in my head, but I THINK the check valve(s) (I think there are two) are not part of the assembly, so you'd be ok.
I just can't say for sure.
I just can't say for sure.
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Try Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
I see them there from $50 to $350 and a bunch of "call for price" under Crossfire.
Under Mercedes SLK320 I see them as low as $10
I see them there from $50 to $350 and a bunch of "call for price" under Crossfire.
Under Mercedes SLK320 I see them as low as $10
Last edited by ala_xfire; 06-04-2016 at 08:48 AM.
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Good deal.
Best to send the RCM to tighed1 and have the air pump relay replaced as soon as you can.
BTW, that is a poor design by MB, a 40 amp rated relay with a 40 amp fuse driving a 40 amp motor.
That relay should be at least a 60 amp, if not an 80 or 100 amp relay.
I once researched and designed how to insert a larger relay in the wiring external to the RCM, but never carried through with it, although I did acquire a few 100 amp relays for the job.
( the 100 amp relay is too big to fit inside the RCM enclosure )
Best to send the RCM to tighed1 and have the air pump relay replaced as soon as you can.
BTW, that is a poor design by MB, a 40 amp rated relay with a 40 amp fuse driving a 40 amp motor.
That relay should be at least a 60 amp, if not an 80 or 100 amp relay.
I once researched and designed how to insert a larger relay in the wiring external to the RCM, but never carried through with it, although I did acquire a few 100 amp relays for the job.
( the 100 amp relay is too big to fit inside the RCM enclosure )
Last edited by ala_xfire; 06-06-2016 at 07:50 AM.
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
What physical damage do you see?
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Gents, I am the Mercedes product manager at FCP Euro. If you need new SLK parts for your crossfire's feel free to pm me or email kyle@fcpeuro.com
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle
Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Gents, I am the Mercedes product manager at FCP Euro. If you need new SLK parts for your crossfire's feel free to pm me or email kyle@fcpeuro.com
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle
Awesome! Glad your here to help us MB drivetrain folks!
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Re: Secondary Smog / Air Pump
Gents, I am the Mercedes product manager at FCP Euro. If you need new SLK parts for your crossfire's feel free to pm me or email kyle@fcpeuro.com
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle
I'll always happy to help and have helped out a few members in the past.
--Kyle