2005 ignition key issue
2005 ignition key issue
Hello All,
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Hello All,
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
This is for the 2004 to 2006 models only, they fixed the part at the factory after that.
If the steering is a turned a little, on a camber etc it can be hard to turn anyway. If turning the steering wheel fixes it then it may not be the sticky ignition problem.
Last edited by onehundred80; 02-24-2016 at 02:11 PM.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Hello All,
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
Just bought the Crossfire 12/2015 and am having what appears to be a common problem. Turning the ignition key and I have to play with it and the steering wheel at the same time. I'm hoping to get a lot of feedback here as I've seen fixes that are fuse related to taking out the pin in the housing. A local mechanic just replaced the fuel pump relay, says he can't fix the key issue but says to take it to a MB dealer. Called the MB dealer and they won't work on it, says to call Chrysler. They quoted the tumbler at $287, housing at $545 and of course a new key at $207.85. When I turn the key it gets "stopped" so I'm guessing it's that pin. If I was at home I'd do this myself, but I'm in Clearwater Fl for a bit and can't do it. So I'm looking for any suggestions, help. Thanks!
sign of a problem. Since your car is exhibiting symptoms you should do this yourself before it
locks up completely. The fix after that becomes much more difficult. I followed the pdf to the letter and
it took me about 4 hours. The cost of the fix was zero. If chuk_138 is able to help you the two of you
can knock it out in probably 2 hours. Again - it's all labor, no parts required (and not many tools, either.)
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
If doing this fix yourself is totally out of the question for some reason, I'd check with some of
the repair shops in St. Pete specializing in German cars or Mercedes (not Mercedes dealer and not
Chrysler dealer). This problem is also common to Mercedes of the era. The ignition is pure Mercedes.
I'd print the pdf and take it to them to see if they'll do this for you. At least they could take the ignition
housing out of the car, give it to you to take home and modify, then return to them to re-install.
Again, it's all labor. Don't know what they'd charge you to take the thing out and put it back.
You may even be showing them a modification they aren't aware of.
Good luck either way.
the repair shops in St. Pete specializing in German cars or Mercedes (not Mercedes dealer and not
Chrysler dealer). This problem is also common to Mercedes of the era. The ignition is pure Mercedes.
I'd print the pdf and take it to them to see if they'll do this for you. At least they could take the ignition
housing out of the car, give it to you to take home and modify, then return to them to re-install.
Again, it's all labor. Don't know what they'd charge you to take the thing out and put it back.
You may even be showing them a modification they aren't aware of.
Good luck either way.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Dealer replaced ours under fact. ex. warranty. waited weeks for new part. (Sep/2010, when we discovered this wonderful forum). when done, they wanted to charge us for new key (not covered since it was not necessary!) we called Corp. & they told dealer to back off & keep their new key. (which was useless to them anyway.) never went back.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Beach guy.
I was having problems with the ignition key sticking, not turning freely. Couple times I had to move the steering wheel to get it released. I was not having a locked steering wheel problem. I found this video on YouTube on " How to fix a sticking/worn Mercedes ignition key." which resolved my problem without removing all the dash parts. Just have to remove the tumbler assembly and repair the tumbler pins which I did with a Dremel and grinding wheel.
This may not fix your problem but I suggest trying it before disassembling the entire dash. Also do a search on YouTube for Crossfire Ignition Cylinder for other options
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=cr...ition+cylinder
I'm just south of Tampa Bay so maybe meet for lunch sometime.
Ron
Parrish
I was having problems with the ignition key sticking, not turning freely. Couple times I had to move the steering wheel to get it released. I was not having a locked steering wheel problem. I found this video on YouTube on " How to fix a sticking/worn Mercedes ignition key." which resolved my problem without removing all the dash parts. Just have to remove the tumbler assembly and repair the tumbler pins which I did with a Dremel and grinding wheel.
This may not fix your problem but I suggest trying it before disassembling the entire dash. Also do a search on YouTube for Crossfire Ignition Cylinder for other options
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=cr...ition+cylinder
I'm just south of Tampa Bay so maybe meet for lunch sometime.
Ron
Parrish
I would stick to the known fix for the Crossfire and not mess with tumblers. I have actually done two sticky key mods without removing the tumblers as the PDF states to do. My fear is messing up the tumblers then I would be forced to re-key when it's not needed for the fix.
Removing tumblers also seems to be a struggling point for several who have tried the sticky key mod. If others had trouble removing them I didn't want the trouble so I discovered a way around the contentious removing of the tumblers.
Last edited by KDW4Him; 02-25-2016 at 11:52 AM.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
What he is saying is that the tumblers are not responsible for what we on this forum call "the sticky key" - it is the redundant lock mechanism that is causing the lockup.
My second Crossfire locked up at a gas station right after I bought it - did the forum "Sticky Key" mod and all was well, until the car was lost in a wreck last summer. I"ve modded 5 or 6 cars since as a pre-emtive measure for fellow owners.
My second Crossfire locked up at a gas station right after I bought it - did the forum "Sticky Key" mod and all was well, until the car was lost in a wreck last summer. I"ve modded 5 or 6 cars since as a pre-emtive measure for fellow owners.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
In this picture you can see the FOB sticking in the tumblers at the bottom of the assy. At the point where the vice grips are holding the assy you can see the spring and pin that are removed when doing the mod. The cover has been removed from the assy to reveal the spring and pin at this point of the job.
Last edited by KDW4Him; 02-25-2016 at 02:28 PM.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
Here is the cylinder that others have said is correct. I have not purchased one. I have the tumblers separate so I will just swap the tumblers if the ledge gets rounded. The top of the tumbler is not the issue when they are up above the shear line, its the "ledge" that contacts the key. Grinding/leveling the top is not correcting the problem.
BTW there are 10 spaces with only 5 depths on our key. Usually the first 2 or 3 are the only ones that get worn because of the "sawing" action of the key near the beginning of the keyway. you can remove a tumbler from the rear (1,2,3,4,or 5 depth) and swap with one in the front that is worn with the same depth tumbler and leave out the one in the rear. Once you understand the depth system is pretty easy to cut a code key by eye. This is our code series 3501-6700.
Last edited by Travish; 02-25-2016 at 03:10 PM.
Re: 2005 ignition key issue
onehundred80,
I'm reviewing the pdf for tackling tomorrow. Is it absolutely necessary to take out the tumbler as you describe in $10? KDW4Him sent me pics and the tumbler and key are still in the assembly when removing the pin and spring. Can you clarify? Thanks!
I'm reviewing the pdf for tackling tomorrow. Is it absolutely necessary to take out the tumbler as you describe in $10? KDW4Him sent me pics and the tumbler and key are still in the assembly when removing the pin and spring. Can you clarify? Thanks!