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Old 02-29-2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by beachguy
onehundred80,
I'm reviewing the pdf for tackling tomorrow. Is it absolutely necessary to take out the tumbler as you describe in #10? KDW4Him sent me pics and the tumbler and key are still in the assembly when removing the pin and spring. Can you clarify? Thanks!
I just did this 10 days ago and I was impressed to see the pictures in this thread with the
tumbler and key still in the ignition. I removed the tumbler per the pdf but getting the tumbler
re-inserted was touch and go. I can see where some folks would have a problem getting it back in.
The key in KDW4Him's picture appears to be in position 0.
I assumed that moving the key to the ON position (position 1) would unlock the steering column in
order to get the ignition housing out. Maybe not.
Eliminating that step would make it some easier. Looking back over the pdf I'm not sure what was accomplished by removing the tumbler.
Surely onehundred80 will impart some wisdom.
 
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Old 02-29-2016 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by beachguy
I meant #10 in the pdf not $10
Well it looks like the tumbler doe not have to come out, so ignore that step.
It is not my PDF, I just get mentioned in it.
Let us know for sure and we can delete that step as required.
 
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Old 02-29-2016 | 04:56 PM
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See the sticky key thread for the full description of leaving the tumblers in.
 
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Old 03-02-2016 | 04:52 PM
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Well, all done and it works! I had bought the '05 Crossfire in Tampa from used car dealer last December while staying in Clearwater. So I called him, told him of my predicament and was able to use his garage, mechanic and tools. The mechanic looked through the pdf and dove in. We had in knocked out in about and hour and a half. We did have to take the tumbler out in order to make enough room to pull the assembly out. With the tumbler still in and the assembly loose, pulling it to the right ran it into plastic molding on the dash. Taking the tumbler out allowed us to pull the assembly to the right just behind the molding and it came right out. The tumbler went back in fine. The only hiccup we had was getting the black cap back over the tumbler. The cap is notched on the inside and slides over a square tapered nub. The difficulty was getting it to slide over. You couldn't push it down with your thumb, had to tap it down. At this point we tried the key several tiimes to make sure it turned freely before we buttoned it up. One other thing, the mechanic did not disconnect any battery cables as the pdf indicates. No issues from that. Thanks to all for the great input.
 
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Old 03-02-2016 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by beachguy
.................................... One other thing, the mechanic did not disconnect any battery cables as the pdf indicates. No issues from that. Thanks to all for the great input.
It can be done without disconnecting the cable, but that switch has live contacts at the back of it and some accident could cause a serious problem. Dropping the lower dash exposes live wires, trouble comes from little slips and poof you see sparks.

It is always safer to disconnect the battery. Mind you the pollution sensors will need to be reset by driving the car as I sadly know too well.
 
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Old 03-03-2016 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by beachguy
We did have to take the tumbler out in order to make enough room to pull the assembly out. With the tumbler still in and the assembly loose, pulling it to the right ran it into plastic molding on the dash. Taking the tumbler out allowed us to pull the assembly to the right just behind the molding and it came right out.

I have done two so far and didn't need to take the tumblers out. I have explained how to do it in the original sticky key thread, post #802


https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/tsbs-how-articles/33074-sticky-ignition-key-fix-all-crossfires-2004-thru-2006-a-41.html#post832818
 

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Old 03-03-2016 | 11:40 PM
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You will have to transplant the key to your fob.. or everything from yours minus the metal key to it's fob. Your existing electronics .. RFID chip and fob circuit board must be used.
 
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